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Topic: great drumming no matter what
Posted By: Kati
Subject: great drumming no matter what
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 07:13

this post is dedicated to great drumming, especially highlighting those who deserve more credit Big smileHeartThumbs Up

Hug Hug
Here is one:
Roger Taylor - Let There Be Drums (Good Quality)   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq2i9iv5y_w&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwNCMWxAGZao-G4-sIKxA9T3&index=34" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq2i9iv5y_w&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwNCMWxAGZao-G4-sIKxA9T3&index=34  xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 07:19
Here is another:
Drum Duet - Phil Collins and Chester Thompson drums AWESOME! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA3rJXV4R4E" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA3rJXV4R4E  xxxxx


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 07:23
Yes Union Live - Bruford/White Drum Duet Big smile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FwBU7pRQLY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FwBU7pRQLY  xxx


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 07:28
The drumming by Seraphine on Chicago V is so really good, the snaredrum sound is among the best i have heard, and its really well micked up. Songs like Dialoge and Saturday, features som really amazing drumming, by a ceverly underrated drummer whos pressence in band is overshadowed, by three breathtaking vocalists, in Lahm, Cetera and Kath, and really flourishous brass and woodwind arangements, Pankow is a genious, so Seraphine is easly to forgett.




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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 07:30
Father and son here :) John and Jason Bonham Dual Drum Solo HeartHug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZbiclg_fls" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZbiclg_fls  xxxxxx


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 07:32
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

The drumming by Seraphine on Chicago V is so really good, the snaredrum sound is among the best i have heard, and its really well micked up. Songs like Dialoge and Saturday, features som really amazing drumming, by a ceverly underrated drummer whos pressence in band is overshadowed, by three breathtaking vocalists, in Lahm, Cetera and Kath, and really flourishous brass and woodwind arangements, Pankow is a genious, so Seraphine is easly to forgett.


ha! Snare drum you mentioned? I must listen because this is one of the most problems I have with the drum sound. Big hug Hug


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 07:33
Lenny White. Pick a song. Any song...
 


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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 07:50
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Lenny White. Pick a song. Any song...
 
Lenny White - Drum solo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lig5Ta90cg" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Lig5Ta90cg  ApproveHug


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 07:54
Terry Bozzio -- Guitar Center Drum Off 2011 (Part I) xxx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR3KWRDK3_U" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR3KWRDK3_U  xxxx


Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 07:56
Big smile



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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 08:03
John "Bonzo" Bonham - Drums solo - 1977 xxx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvn6PKON4xU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvn6PKON4xU  xxxxx


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 08:49
Hi,
 
Try three drummers in the current version of King Crimson ... astoundingly magnificent!
 
Not sure of the time element, but in Germany there was a group called "Niagara" that had 2 albums (I believe) and it was ALL drummers! Kinda crazy but fun to listen to and add the television set dialogue over it! (Which was done by one person already!)


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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 08:54
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
Try three drummers in the current version of King Crimson ... astoundingly magnificent!
yep among those 3 is Gavin Harrison from PT WinkHug XXXX


Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 09:00
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

...
yep among those 3 is Gavin Harrison from PT WinkHug XXXX
 
I was there ... !!! Worth every nickel!


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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 09:02
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

...
yep among those 3 is Gavin Harrison from PT WinkHug XXXX
 
I was there ... !!! Worth every nickel!
Aaaaahhhhhh.... you lucky sod! HeartHug


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:02
Phil Collins on drums here :) Jethro Tull & Phil Collins/Prince's Trust Gala on 7 July 1982 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndp0-jaRRzo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndp0-jaRRzo  xxxxxx


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:04
Led Zeppelin Stairway To Heaven live 1984 Phil Collins On Drums  xxxx Big smile  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVaDKShJd8U" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVaDKShJd8U


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:06
Phil Collins on drums here too :) Ozzy Osbourne - Tony Iommi - Phil Collins - Paranoid (Live)  xxxx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuzuWlUeMwo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuzuWlUeMwo  xxxxx


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:09
Ok, check out the little girl at around 1:30 of this video and the last one as well. There are some excellent drummers out there who aren't all that known.




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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:09
Lots of great drummers mentioned here but I have to object to Roger Taylor being included in the same sentence paragraph thread forum domain server as 'great drumming': I think he's a crap drummer in a brilliant band (maybe part of the reason and main limitation as to why Queen never ventured fully into the Prog domain? apart from not wanting to of course...)

As for unheralded drummers, here are some of those seldom mentioned when the 'great and the good' are bandied about :

Jon Hiseman
Brian Davison (the Nice)
Michael Giles
Andy McCulloch
Tony Hicks (Back Door)
Ted McKenna (SAHB)
J.D. Haney (Monochrome Set)
Budgie (Siouxsie & the Banshees)
Billy Ficca (Television)
Pete de Freitas (Echo & the Bunnymen)
Ian Wallace
Terry Chambers (XTC)
John Densmore (the Doors)
Pierre Moerlen
Cat Heady (the Gourishankar)
Giulio Capiozzo (Area)
Beer Klaasse (Finch)








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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:10
Jethro Tull & Phil Collins On Drums - Pussy Willow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTwU9LZh0qo" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTwU9LZh0qo  xxxx


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:14
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Lots of great drummers mentioned here but I have to object to Roger Taylor being included in the same sentence paragraph thread forum domain server as 'great drumming': I think he's a crap drummer in a brilliant band (maybe part of the reason and main limitation as to why Queen never ventured fully into the Prog domain? apart from not wanting to of course...)

As for unheralded drummers, here are some of those seldom mentioned when the 'great and the good' are bandied about :

Jon Hiseman
Brian Davison (the Nice)
Michael Giles
Andy McCulloch
Tony Hicks (Back Door)
Ted McKenna (SAHB)
J.D. Haney (Monochrome Set)
Budgie (Siouxsie & the Banshees)
Billy Ficca (Television)
Pete de Freitas (Echo & the Bunnymen)
Ian Wallace
Terry Chambers (XTC)
John Densmore (the Doors)
Pierre Moerlen
Cat Heady (the Gourishankar)
Giulio Capiozzo (Area)
Beer Klaasse (Finch)


hahaha LOL you are very naughty,  ExittheLemming Hug
I said great drumming no matter what Wink inc. Roger Taylor post hihihihi more hugs Hug


Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:16
OK point taken, no matter their ability Wink


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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:17
this almost reminds me of Tubular Bells Big smile Raphael Rudd "Travels" featuring Phil Collins on drums; produced by Pete Townshend 1978 xxxx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju_UAerMWQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju_UAerMWQ  xxxxx


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:20
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

OK point taken, no matter their ability Wink
he has the highest vocal falsetto tho' Big smile btw I think he is good too because his drumming although not dominant they are spot on rhythmic perfect on Queen tracks. Wink big hug Hug


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:21
be prepared now for an explosive fantastic overload Big smile hahaha!!! Clap Drums Drums & More Drums (Phil Collins/ChesterThompson/Luis Conte) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW9JIJvaSXw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW9JIJvaSXw  xxxx


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:27
Undervalued but perhaps not underrated, Barrie Barlow. If one looks at the profound drop-off in album quality after Barlow's departure, in my estimation the drummers who followed Barlow were either not on par or the egomaniacal Ian Anderson no longer esteemed the drumming aspects of Tull. Both Barlow, and Clive Bunker before him, were great drummers and integral in the Tull sound (certainly more evident in the playback than drummers post-1979).
 


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:31
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Undervalued but perhaps not underrated, Barrie Barlow. If one looks at the profound drop-off in album quality after Barlow's departure, in my estimation the drummers who followed Barlow were either not on par or the egomaniacal Ian Anderson no longer esteemed the drumming aspects of Tull. Both Barlow, and Clive Bunker before him, were great drummers and integral in the Tull sound (certainly more evident in the playback than drummers post-1979).
Barlow's my favorite Tull drummer, easily. I wouldn't dismiss Doane Perry's skills too quickly, though. He's an excellent drummer.


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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:31
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Undervalued but perhaps not underrated, Barrie Barlow. If one looks at the profound drop-off in album quality after Barlow's departure, in my estimation the drummers who followed Barlow were either not on par or the egomaniacal Ian Anderson no longer esteemed the drumming aspects of Tull. Both Barlow, and Clive Bunker before him, were great drummers and integral in the Tull sound (certainly more evident in the playback than drummers post-1979).
 
oh aww wow thank you for this The Dark Elf HugHugHug


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:32


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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:32


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 10:52
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Undervalued but perhaps not underrated, Barrie Barlow. If one looks at the profound drop-off in album quality after Barlow's departure, in my estimation the drummers who followed Barlow were either not on par or the egomaniacal Ian Anderson no longer esteemed the drumming aspects of Tull. Both Barlow, and Clive Bunker before him, were great drummers and integral in the Tull sound (certainly more evident in the playback than drummers post-1979).
Barlow's my favorite Tull drummer, easily. I wouldn't dismiss Doane Perry's skills too quickly, though. He's an excellent drummer.
Not dissing Doane, per se, rather, my theory is that as Ian became more totalitarian in his approach to the band, the individual aspects of the music became more limited. For instance, I consider Dave Pegg an excellent bassist, but you really wouldn't know it from his output with Tull. If you really look at Tull's 80s albums, the only one that stands out is Crest of a Knave where Martin Barre was allowed to unleash his licks. The more abysmal releases, like Under Wraps, featured heavy synths and drum machines. As far as recent albums like TAAB2 and Homo Erraticus, they are, as advertised, Ian solo albums (minus even Barre), with what sounds like hired musicians, particularly the metronome drumming.


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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 11:04
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 11:11
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 11:11
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Undervalued but perhaps not underrated, Barrie Barlow. If one looks at the profound drop-off in album quality after Barlow's departure, in my estimation the drummers who followed Barlow were either not on par or the egomaniacal Ian Anderson no longer esteemed the drumming aspects of Tull. Both Barlow, and Clive Bunker before him, were great drummers and integral in the Tull sound (certainly more evident in the playback than drummers post-1979).
 
oh aww wow thank you for this The Dark Elf HugHugHug
Just so you know I mean always what I say and also mentioned you here on youtube comments Wink https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqQ9Ozu_q2U" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqQ9Ozu_q2U  Hug


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 11:45
Liquid Tension Experiment - "Rhapsody in Blue" (Prog Metal Version) - Live 2008 *HD 1080p* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq9I9Zyy7_k&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwNjIDUSQ6USBmPTdIrtcet3&index=1" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq9I9Zyy7_k&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwNjIDUSQ6USBmPTdIrtcet3&index=1  xxxx


Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 11:46
I don't have any fancy videos, but Frank Fontsere is probably the most underrated/under-appreciated*  drummer in the world. Nothing fancy or gimmicky about him, but is solid as f**k and gets the job done.

*best drummer I know who never really gets recognition



Posted By: Valarius
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 11:47
** Not actually a prog drummer either. But just an awesome drummer. Embarrassed


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 12:03
We can't have an appreciative thread about drumming in prog without a mention of this monster of a track from Il Balletto di Bronzo:

One of my favourite bass and drums "duets". The flickering psych guitar and organ is just icing on the cake.



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Posted By: justin4950834-2
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 12:11
B.J Wilson from Procol Harum



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Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 12:30


Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 12:49
^ love that song and that entire album so much. Pip Pyle the monster!


listened to this in the car

Saw KD play this just a few weeks ago. Keith Abrahms is a phenomenal drummer.


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Posted By: The Sloth
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 13:09
Jon Fishman. 


Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 13:10
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Undervalued but perhaps not underrated, Barrie Barlow. If one looks at the profound drop-off in album quality after Barlow's departure, in my estimation the drummers who followed Barlow were either not on par or the egomaniacal Ian Anderson no longer esteemed the drumming aspects of Tull. Both Barlow, and Clive Bunker before him, were great drummers and integral in the Tull sound (certainly more evident in the playback than drummers post-1979).
 

Couldn't agree more - To be fair to the guys who followed Barlow though, they never had the material to get as inventive as BB did. The song structures were in the main simpler after the 70's.


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 13:10
Then there's this guy!


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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 13:54
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Oh my Padraic, the bass playing is astonishing brilliant! ClapHeartHug at 2.15 when the drums kick in the sound doesn't drop, this is how it should be, fantastic, love this! Hug


Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 14:01
An all time favorite...




Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 14:15
Originally posted by CosmicVibration CosmicVibration wrote:

An all time favorite...


Whoohaaa!!!! Thank you for this, CosmicVibrationHug
P.S. Bruford is the sexiest and funniest drummer alive too.
Wow the rhythm percussion is insane here! ClapShockedStarStarStarStarStar and drumming whooohaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx hahahahahaha!!!! wow hahaha!!!!
P.S. That ending here was a bit abrupt tho' lol


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 14:24
Led Zeppelin - The Lemon Song  dum dum dum dum ta te ti ... great drums and cymbals and bass guitar too and obviously fab prelilipupu guitar too Big smile here   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyhu2ysqKGk&index=39&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwNG6fntAnlnpEoU7kaqWQbr" rel="nofollow -


Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 14:30
haven't listened to every thing here, but i can already tell this is prog drumming heaven for me from the get-go!!

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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 18:08
Ten years ago Tony Royster Jr. at age 12.  Many probably have seen this but if you haven't let me tell you it's worth the seven minutes.  Today, ten years later he's now JZ's drummer.  Yeah I consider it a waste of talent too but he knows where the money is and he's still great.
 


Posted By: windycrawford
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 21:32
You should definitely check out Jaki Liebezeit from Can, song "Mother sky" being the showcase. Crimson "Absent Lovers" live album and The Who's Quadrophenia are essential as well


Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 21:57
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by CosmicVibration CosmicVibration wrote:

An all time favorite...


Whoohaaa!!!! Thank you for this, CosmicVibrationHug
P.S. Bruford is the sexiest and funniest drummer alive too.
Wow the rhythm percussion is insane here! ClapShockedStarStarStarStarStar and drumming whooohaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx hahahahahaha!!!! wow hahaha!!!!
P.S. That ending here was a bit abrupt tho' lol


You’re very welcome… It was an excerpt from a King Crimson tune called Indiscipline.   When King Crimson re-formed again in 81 and released Discipline it blew me away; fresh, new, very different.

 

Bruford is definitely an all-around musician and not just a drummer.

This clip is from a more or less instructional video Bill put out called Bill Bruford and the Beat.

P.S. I don’t find him sexy at all… I don’t see any man as being sexy. Smile




Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: April 24 2015 at 22:32
Originally posted by CosmicVibration CosmicVibration wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by CosmicVibration CosmicVibration wrote:

An all time favorite...


Whoohaaa!!!! Thank you for this, CosmicVibrationHug
P.S. Bruford is the sexiest and funniest drummer alive too.
Wow the rhythm percussion is insane here! ClapShockedStarStarStarStarStar and drumming whooohaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx hahahahahaha!!!! wow hahaha!!!!
P.S. That ending here was a bit abrupt tho' lol


You’re very welcome… It was an excerpt from a King Crimson tune called Indiscipline.   When King Crimson re-formed again in 81 and released Discipline it blew me away; fresh, new, very different.

 

Bruford is definitely an all-around musician and not just a drummer.

This clip is from a more or less instructional video Bill put out called Bill Bruford and the Beat.

P.S. I don’t find him sexy at all… I don’t see any man as being sexy. Smile


He is sexy yep indeedy, although he was not in the court of the crimson king album Red is fab and if I could pick a date it would be David Bowie but Bruford second next too I love him too Big smile big hug to you CosmicVibration xxxxx


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 25 2015 at 01:58
More Roger Taylor ( not a crap drummer!)
 
 


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 25 2015 at 02:04
The late Pim Koopman. Love the way he plays almost like a kid with a new drum set just slapping everything!
 
 


Posted By: Matte
Date Posted: April 25 2015 at 11:40
Some days ago I went to see Mats/Morgan Band. The drummer is Morgan Ågren ( Kaipa, Karmakanic, Tangent etc ) and I was really impressed!!!
 
I have seen many legends ( Cozy Powell, Ian Paice, Neal Peart, Terry Bozzio and many more ) and I must say that Morgan Ågren deserves to be in the same league!!


Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: April 25 2015 at 12:46

Ex-Drummer from Estradasphere, Dave Murray. f**king awesome.


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Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: April 25 2015 at 13:18
www.notdavemurray.com/

His hilarious website. Deserts of Traun is also a great project of his.


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Posted By: Hannibal_20
Date Posted: April 26 2015 at 04:23

gabriel parra from los jaivas, the greatest chilean drummer in the history (the drumming lines are from minute 5 to 9 but listen all the song)


Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: April 26 2015 at 07:59
Mike Glozier

Don't know his name

Jacob Armen... Some will think I'm also thinking of him because of the reminders of April 24th, 1915... However. Among the numerous vids:

But my nr1 master so far is Marco Minnemann. I'm not really a fan of much of the music he's been involved in, but his way of viewing the art of drumming definitely meets me.

How I noticed him: from 3'41 on until guitar solo...

His amazing door opening approaches to polyrythms:



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Date Posted: April 26 2015 at 12:49


Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: April 26 2015 at 13:45
Something from AKA Moon featuring ever-groovy sticksman Stéphane Galland:
 


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 27 2015 at 01:39
Minnermann is a great drummer. I will try and get round to listening to all those others!


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 27 2015 at 08:11
Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

The drumming by Seraphine on Chicago V is so really good, the snaredrum sound is among the best i have heard, and its really well micked up. Songs like Dialoge and Saturday, features som really amazing drumming, by a ceverly underrated drummer whos pressence in band is overshadowed, by three breathtaking vocalists, in Lahm, Cetera and Kath, and really flourishous brass and woodwind arangements, Pankow is a genious, so Seraphine is easly to forgett.


 
Absolutely agree on this....I saw him live in 69 when they were still CTA...remarkable drumming.
His work especially on the first 4 or 5 albums is killer but he was always excellent on all of their output.


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Posted By: adam525
Date Posted: April 29 2015 at 23:11
This post is in reply to the post about the Bill Bruford/Alan White drum duet...

I'm a HUGE Bruford fan, but not as much of an Alan White fan.  Bruford was the first progressive drummer I ever got into. 

I LOVE the King Crimson Discipline album and ALL of the Bruford albums.  I couldn't ever really get into the Earthworks stuff for whatever reason, but all of his other stuff I love.

In Bruford's biography it talks about one of those shows where he and Alan White were about to go out and do their drum duet/duel and Brufords (mostly electronic kit) failed on him during the break and all he had to play with was a snare and cymbals.  Man, what a humbling experience that would be.  Those are the kinds of things that happen in that world though.


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: May 01 2015 at 00:28
Oh yes!!!!!!!! We cannot but name and take our hats off to Rick Allan (drummer from Led Zeppelin), who in 1985 lost one arm and broke the other one in car accident yet he continued playing drums and even helped develop drum kits for those who lost their limbs especially for war veterans HeartApproveClap 
Def Leppard Armageddon It (live) 1987 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4-2b_LPgVw" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4-2b_LPgVw  xxxxx
 


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: May 01 2015 at 00:29
Def Leppard 1988 Hysteria soundcheck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoZGPl-_l8Y" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoZGPl-_l8Y  xxxxxxxxxxx


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: May 01 2015 at 00:38
Now on a lighter and happier note, have a listen to these tiny adorable to be reckoned with girls. The girl on drums especially wow, her stamina too is amazing and rhythm spot on fantastic. SHE IS ONLY 12 YEARS OLD!!!!
Enter Sandman - METALLICA Cover - The Warning   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1boUYB9LFJY" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1boUYB9LFJY
All 3 sisters are fantastic really!  Clap


Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: May 01 2015 at 08:04
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Minnermann is a great drummer. I will try and get round to listening to all those others!

Of course drumming like on those Minnemann vids tends to please people that are more autistic than "people oriented"... Let's notice MM's friendly (vs "professional") posture on many videos of his, though, esp his not being too fussy with hightech. It's all about the joy of going for "impossible" yet beautiful combinations, sharing inner voyages, and a delicious way of challenging and keeping oneself busy...


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 01 2015 at 08:33
I prefer drummers who focus on groove and feel over the ones that seek unknown heights of complexity. A lot of the new guys on the block are no doubt incredible drummers with a knack for polyrhythms, but most of them are so "trained" that they never go beyond the beat. They become metronomes and timekeepers. 
I like the ones who can implement mistakes in their playing, a "looseness" if you will - the ones that throw themselves to the ground and missWink It's being on the beat and then not really. It's about pushing yourself further and going where you quite easily can make a mistake.... and then you seek it out - only when it's done right the mistake transforms and becomes something completely different and beautiful and powerful. Pierre Moerlen and Jerzy Piotrowski know what I'm on about. 
I think a lot of the new drumming deities have spend so much of their time training - trying not to make any mistakes, that they simply cannot unlearn it. Doing something off-kilter or merely different within any given song then becomes almost entirely impossible, because they have to be on the beat. 
It's not only in the drumming world I see this either. The perfection fad has spread to all corners of the musical map.


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Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: May 01 2015 at 10:10
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Pierre Moerlen and Jerzy Piotrowski know what I'm on about. 

You mean that you noticed them among tons of drummers ? After watching respective solos on youtube I can't really tell what makes them "different", at least nothing felt new to me.

So I shared a Mike Glozier vid that may feel soulless to you, but I found the electronic things Glozier was drumming on very groovy, and just didn't miss "mistakes". I was happily surprized at the result from that crazy idea of playing on electronics. 

To me it certainly has to remain music.  I won't trust a drummer I can't dance to, or my soul and body won't react to. I dance on "Good Times Bad Times", on "Total Life Forever", on "Owner of of a Lonely Heart". I dance on Minnemann (who's obviously more a master to follow than a deity to worship, and does not seem to be emprisoned in fear from happy mistakes). I don't dance on most tech-metal stuff.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 01 2015 at 10:23
It's not about solos though. It's about how they roll with the band. There are thousands of drummers out there able to come up with brilliant solos. It's really not about that for me.

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Posted By: jayem
Date Posted: May 01 2015 at 10:46
I guess thousands of drummers can wonderfully blend their drumming with other instrums as well. Er...In that regard the UKZ video is the only music I know in which my idol Minnemann plays, that I really enjoy !!

Among groovy tracks I've mentioned maybe only Bonham in "Good Times Bad Times" plays most key ingredients for the groove, whilst in the others, every part contributes. 

So it'd mean I'd prefer Bonham to the others !!





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Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: May 01 2015 at 10:46

A lot of really terrific kids here…  Here’s one of the most amazing exhibitions I’ve ever seen from a 16 year old punk. Clap





Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: May 07 2015 at 23:49
I wonder how many people actually know or are aware that Bill Bruford is not on In The Court of the Crimson King, album SmileHug


Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: May 08 2015 at 00:10
For me, one of the most underrated drummers is Metal Church's Kirk Arrington.

He is definitely one of my favorite drummers
 


Posted By: Chunga
Date Posted: May 08 2015 at 20:17
The drummer from Mouse on the Keys is an awesome drummer.




So is Volkan Otkem from the Turkish Jazz Fusion band Laço Tayfa (Lacho Tayfa).



One more drum hero from me is Yoshiki from X Japan.
While he isn't really a technical drummer, he's an absolutely amazing composer and great piano player.

His solo is more of a test of endurance rather than a "show off your chops", he's also a great show man.
Sure there are plenty of technically good drummers, but a lot of them are so boring to watch.
[Looking at you Peart].

For any fans of Speed/Hair Metal which isn't just mindless shredding, I'd recommend checking out X Japan, especially their first two albums. They're melodically appeasing and have many tear jerking power-ballads for all you melodramatic softies out there. (Don't worry, I'm one of them too).






*EDIT; After reviewing my post, I realized that I completely went off topic and went on a bit of a rant, sorry.


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: May 08 2015 at 20:48
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

I wonder how many people actually know or are aware that Bill Bruford is not on In The Court of the Crimson King, album SmileHug
 
'Round that time, Bill was in the Monkees. WinkLOL


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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: May 09 2015 at 18:05
Bernard Purdie


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: May 10 2015 at 20:16
prom pa pa pa titi tatumtum dededidadum tumtum papapa ..... prepepipupum... Uriah Heep - Easy Livin' Live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4o--q6xuvs&index=3&list=RDnzRrGNygjzs" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4o--q6xuvs&index=3&list=RDnzRrGNygjzs  :)


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: May 10 2015 at 20:31
Agren
Moerlen
Bruford
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: May 14 2015 at 17:30
The awesome Jo Jo Mayer....stunning....




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Date Posted: May 16 2015 at 11:46


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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: May 16 2015 at 23:45
Gavin Harrison from Porcupine Tree and now also in King Crimson Thumbs UpApprove Gavin Harrison - Anesthetize https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: May 16 2015 at 23:49
The Flower Kings - Humanizzimo 2002 with Zoltan on drums and Daniel Gildenlow also on vocals here Big smileClap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szv--AI8LgU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szv--AI8LgU


Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: May 18 2015 at 16:55
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Gavin Harrison from Porcupine Tree and now also in King Crimson Thumbs UpApprove Gavin Harrison - Anesthetize https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q

Good call Sonia Thumbs Up - Gavin Harrison is one of the finest and most inventive drummers to surface in the last 15 years, even better than me! Wink Robert Fripp knew what he was doing when he got him in Crimson.


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: May 20 2015 at 01:57
Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Gavin Harrison from Porcupine Tree and now also in King Crimson Thumbs UpApprove Gavin Harrison - Anesthetize https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q

Good call Sonia Thumbs Up - Gavin Harrison is one of the finest and most inventive drummers to surface in the last 15 years, even better than me! Wink Robert Fripp knew what he was doing when he got him in Crimson.
Ha! Nightfly, you are a drummer too? Awww go on please, pretty pls do post us a link for us to listen you on drums? Pretty please? Big smileHeart
Big hug to you!!! Hug


Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: May 22 2015 at 13:00
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Gavin Harrison from Porcupine Tree and now also in King Crimson Thumbs UpApprove Gavin Harrison - Anesthetize https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q

Good call Sonia Thumbs Up - Gavin Harrison is one of the finest and most inventive drummers to surface in the last 15 years, even better than me! Wink Robert Fripp knew what he was doing when he got him in Crimson.
Ha! Nightfly, you are a drummer too? Awww go on please, pretty pls do post us a link for us to listen you on drums? Pretty please? Big smileHeart
Big hug to you!!! Hug

Aw, alright then. Hug It's not prog though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln75IKL7e3I" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln75IKL7e3I


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: May 23 2015 at 20:58
Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Gavin Harrison from Porcupine Tree and now also in King Crimson Thumbs UpApprove Gavin Harrison - Anesthetize https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q

Good call Sonia Thumbs Up - Gavin Harrison is one of the finest and most inventive drummers to surface in the last 15 years, even better than me! Wink Robert Fripp knew what he was doing when he got him in Crimson.
Ha! Nightfly, you are a drummer too? Awww go on please, pretty pls do post us a link for us to listen you on drums? Pretty please? Big smileHeart
Big hug to you!!! Hug

Aw, alright then. Hug It's not prog though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln75IKL7e3I" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln75IKL7e3I
 
Whhoooohooohaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! ShockedStern SmileClap
 
Aaaaaaaaaahhh hahahahaha!!!!!!! Shocked No Shocked hahahaha!!! Nightfly, is this a reply to my msg above, is this spot on prolific brilliant spot on tempo rhythmic fab, you? Stern Smile


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: May 23 2015 at 21:00
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Gavin Harrison from Porcupine Tree and now also in King Crimson Thumbs UpApprove Gavin Harrison - Anesthetize https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q

Good call Sonia Thumbs Up - Gavin Harrison is one of the finest and most inventive drummers to surface in the last 15 years, even better than me! Wink Robert Fripp knew what he was doing when he got him in Crimson.
Ha! Nightfly, you are a drummer too? Awww go on please, pretty pls do post us a link for us to listen you on drums? Pretty please? Big smileHeart
Big hug to you!!! Hug
 
Aw, alright then. Hug It's not prog though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln75IKL7e3I" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln75IKL7e3I
 
Whhoooohooohaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! ShockedStern SmileClap
 
Aaaaaaaaaahhh hahahahaha!!!!!!! Shocked No Shocked hahahaha!!! Nightfly, is this a reply to my msg above, is this spot on prolific brilliant spot on tempo rhythmic fab, you? Stern Smile
hahahaha!!! bounce, bounce, happy bounce yay hahaha!!! Big smile


Posted By: progrockdeepcuts
Date Posted: May 23 2015 at 22:24
Bob Leith






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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: May 23 2015 at 22:28
Originally posted by progrockdeepcuts progrockdeepcuts wrote:

Bob Leith




First one me personally, not my thing, don't like it, it is more punk rock and I don't really like it.
Second track I like more way more Big smileHug


Posted By: progrockdeepcuts
Date Posted: May 23 2015 at 23:10
That aside, I've always thought the drumming was stellar in both tracks and countless other Cardiacs tunes. "There's Good Cud" is from their last album, Guns, which also contains this little bouncy gem that's a million miles from punk. I love the variety of Guns.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AipXtRruGnk

(Sorry for no direct link, I'm a dumb user on a smartphone! :) )

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Posted By: zachfive
Date Posted: May 23 2015 at 23:25
Chris Cutler has yet to be mentioned. RIP LindsayCooper


Robert Wyatt is also worth noting.



Non/Semi prog related drummers deserving of a mention:
Simon Philips, Jonathan Mover, Jim Gordon, and Jeff Porcaro


Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: May 23 2015 at 23:31
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,
 
Try three drummers in the current version of King Crimson ... astoundingly magnificent!
yep among those 3 is Gavin Harrison from PT WinkHug XXXX

This was their stage, it was perhaps the best concert I've ever seen!  (dating back to LTIA, CTTE, TAAB etc. tours).




Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: May 24 2015 at 14:23
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Gavin Harrison from Porcupine Tree and now also in King Crimson Thumbs UpApprove Gavin Harrison - Anesthetize https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q

Good call Sonia Thumbs Up - Gavin Harrison is one of the finest and most inventive drummers to surface in the last 15 years, even better than me! Wink Robert Fripp knew what he was doing when he got him in Crimson.
Ha! Nightfly, you are a drummer too? Awww go on please, pretty pls do post us a link for us to listen you on drums? Pretty please? Big smileHeart
Big hug to you!!! Hug

Aw, alright then. Hug It's not prog though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln75IKL7e3I" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln75IKL7e3I
 
Whhoooohooohaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! ShockedStern SmileClap
 
Aaaaaaaaaahhh hahahahaha!!!!!!! Shocked No Shocked hahahaha!!! Nightfly, is this a reply to my msg above, is this spot on prolific brilliant spot on tempo rhythmic fab, you? Stern Smile

Yes it's me, from a Radio 1 Friday Rock Show session back in 1987. Smile


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: May 27 2015 at 08:35
Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Gavin Harrison from Porcupine Tree and now also in King Crimson Thumbs UpApprove Gavin Harrison - Anesthetize https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q

Good call Sonia Thumbs Up - Gavin Harrison is one of the finest and most inventive drummers to surface in the last 15 years, even better than me! Wink Robert Fripp knew what he was doing when he got him in Crimson.
Ha! Nightfly, you are a drummer too? Awww go on please, pretty pls do post us a link for us to listen you on drums? Pretty please? Big smileHeart
Big hug to you!!! Hug

Aw, alright then. Hug It's not prog though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln75IKL7e3I" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln75IKL7e3I
 
Whhoooohooohaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! ShockedStern SmileClap
 
Aaaaaaaaaahhh hahahahaha!!!!!!! Shocked No Shocked hahahaha!!! Nightfly, is this a reply to my msg above, is this spot on prolific brilliant spot on tempo rhythmic fab, you? Stern Smile

Yes it's me, from a Radio 1 Friday Rock Show session back in 1987. Smile
Ha! You said it's not prog, I don't care what it is classified as, it's whoohaaa brilliant and to be honest most bands inc. prog bands do not have an amazing drummer, who double kicks ass, which is crucial to any band, the depth, the bottom end, the fab none annoying snare drum, the smack bam bum splash cymbals with sizzling echoes etc.  I am amazed at your drumming, whatever you may call it, it's spot on exciting exhilarating brilliant! ha! hahagha wow! Nightfly, love it! Love you! Big smileClap


Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: May 27 2015 at 08:37
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Gavin Harrison from Porcupine Tree and now also in King Crimson Thumbs UpApprove Gavin Harrison - Anesthetize https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quRW8IKZ5Q

Good call Sonia Thumbs Up - Gavin Harrison is one of the finest and most inventive drummers to surface in the last 15 years, even better than me! Wink Robert Fripp knew what he was doing when he got him in Crimson.
Ha! Nightfly, you are a drummer too? Awww go on please, pretty pls do post us a link for us to listen you on drums? Pretty please? Big smileHeart
Big hug to you!!! Hug

Aw, alright then. Hug It's not prog though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln75IKL7e3I" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln75IKL7e3I
 
Whhoooohooohaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! ShockedStern SmileClap
 
Aaaaaaaaaahhh hahahahaha!!!!!!! Shocked No Shocked hahahaha!!! Nightfly, is this a reply to my msg above, is this spot on prolific brilliant spot on tempo rhythmic fab, you? Stern Smile

Yes it's me, from a Radio 1 Friday Rock Show session back in 1987. Smile
Ha! You said it's not prog, I don't care what it is classified as, it's whoohaaa brilliant and to be honest most bands inc. prog bands do not have an amazing drummer, who double kicks ass, which is crucial to any band, the depth, the bottom end, the fab none annoying snare drum, the smack bam bum splash cymbals with sizzling echoes etc.  I am amazed at your drumming, whatever you may call it, it's spot on exciting exhilarating brilliant! ha! hahagha wow! Nightfly, love it! Love you! Big smileClap
Nightfly, can you record at home? Or do you need to go to a studio in order to record your drums? mhwoaahhxxxx


Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: May 27 2015 at 09:55
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

I wonder how many people actually know or are aware that Bill Bruford is not on In The Court of the Crimson King, album SmileHug

Of course it is not Bill Bruford, it is this guy here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhGuKbw2DE0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhGuKbw2DE0    Big smile

And a few of my other drumming favourites:






(this could also be my favourite keyboard player or favourite bass player...)









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