Queen II Vs Physical Graffiti
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Topic: Queen II Vs Physical Graffiti
Posted By: Svetonio
Subject: Queen II Vs Physical Graffiti
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 12:09
An initial vote goes to Queen II  Please vote.
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Posted By: Pastmaster
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 12:36
I like Queen II, but my vote goes to my favorite Zep album. 
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 12:55
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Queen II is utterly magical. Physical Graffiti has many great moments, but there's some filler in there. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: sublime220
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 13:16
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The best LZ album vs. the second best Queen album. Physical Graffiti wins this one ------------- There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark... |
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 13:24
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Queen II of course. LZ IV or Houses of the Holy could be a better comparison, but anyway I'd vote for QII against any LZ.
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 13:27
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I love Queen II but Zep all the way for me ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 13:56
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Physical Graffiti ------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 14:46
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PG. Queen were still building their sound while Led Zep was in full flight. My fave LZ album by far. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 14:47
| No contest. Queen II would have to throw the towel in pretty early on. Good album but no comparison to PG. |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 15:47
PLUS ONE.
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Wanorak wrote:Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 16:08
| The only Queen I like. |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 18:31
Seconded. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 18:38
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Two of my favorite albums from both these bands, but I have to join the pack and pay allegiance to the mighty Led Zeppelin. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 19:37
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Queen II. Is there any album more over-rated than Physical Graffiti? Especially of late. It's basically a collection of outtakes, songs that were rejected for previous albums. Nor do these songs sit comfortably side-by-side with each other. The best is the new material recorded for that album, especially Custard Pie, The Wanton Song, Trampled Under Foot, and of course the great Kashmir. Those tracks are undeniably great, up there with anything Led Zep ever recorded. Furthermore, those tracks push Led Zep in a new direction. Too bad then that it's surrounded by rejects. There's probably a great single disc lurking in there, if you cut out all the filler and inferior songs that should've been B-sides.
How anyone can think it approaches IV, II, I, III or even Houses of the Holy, I've never understood...
"Led Zeppelin IV" outtakes and rejects: Down by the Seaside, Night Flight, Boogie with Stu --- verdict: not one of these songs can hold a candle to any single song on IV "Led Zeppelin III" outtakes and rejects: Bron-Yr-Aur --- verdict: a nice short acoustic instrumental "Houses of the Holy" outtakes and rejects: The Rover, Black Country Woman, Houses of the Holy --- verdict: only the track Houses of the Holy is up to the usual Led Zep standards That's 7 old songs, only one of which is up to par, paired with 8 new songs (including the dreadful In My Time of Dying, which further bogs down the album). |
Posted By: JesusisLord
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 20:30
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Please…. Graffitti By a Musical Mile ------------- And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Phillipians 2:11 |
Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: April 07 2015 at 20:44
| How lopsided for Zep does it have to get before this farce is completed? |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 08 2015 at 01:43
Interesting dissemination I've never been a great Led Zep fan ( in truth not a great hard rock fan) but this is the only album I really care about from them apart from In Through The Out Door Doubles are always problematic to me and they always have 'filler' ( inc Lamb) so its really the high points that matter for me and Led Zep best moments are on PG imo. Queen II ? I've just ordered the deluxe edition as it seems the Queen album to have . I do like The Flash Gordon soundtrack ( keyboards!) but that is not a proper album.
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Posted By: antonyus
Date Posted: April 08 2015 at 02:52
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Black side of the Queen II is absolutely fantastic written by Mercury but vote goes to LZ! |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: April 08 2015 at 03:44
I could not agree more. Sheer Heart attack is my favourite Queen album by a hair over Queen II, but both show the band at their hard rock best. Physical Graffiti cannot hold a candle to LZ III or IV. For me, only Custard Pie and the amazing Kashmir are truly great; it would have been better with all the filler and reject material stripped out and released as a single album. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: April 08 2015 at 09:19
| Both great albums, but Queen II is quite more progressive than PG, even though it has great music. |
Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: April 08 2015 at 10:56
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I drifted away from Led Zepp after III and was just getting into the early Queen albums. I liked Mercury's vocal style and May's guitar style. Queen II got my vote.
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Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: April 08 2015 at 12:01
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PG for me. You, I think The White Album vs. Physical Graffiti would have made a more interesting poll, considering that both involved a "Let's throw everything and the kitchen sink against the wall and see what happens" approach. ------------- He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball! |
Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: April 08 2015 at 13:01
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I like Queen 2 but don't quite understand why it is so popular on prog sites - a bit of a mess at times with a few classics thrown in such as White Queen (As it began) Thought the next 2 albums were a big improvement especially ANATO. Zep by some way - great album and though there is the odd duffer (take a bow Boogie with Stu) a diverse album with the band at or very near its peak.
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: April 08 2015 at 13:56
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^Can't agree with the statement about 'mess'. Musically it's probably the most cohesive Queen work, both conceptually and music-wise. A Night at the Opera is virtually nothing but repetition of what's already been said. Technically polished, but lacks originality. ------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: April 08 2015 at 17:18
| Now you're looking for attention. I mean, why would you want to compare the two? |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: April 08 2015 at 17:26
Sometimes individual songs don't get put on an album because they don't fit in with the general characteristics of the rest of the recordings or with what the band wants to release. This does not mean they are bad songs. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: April 08 2015 at 17:37
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Physical Graffiti. Even though I only like the first disc ------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: aglasshouse
Date Posted: April 08 2015 at 19:22
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Graffiti is my favorite Zeppelin album and I don't really like Queen. ------------- http://fryingpanmedia.com |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: April 08 2015 at 20:26
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: April 08 2015 at 22:47
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Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: April 09 2015 at 00:48
Interesting point. I think ANATO had tracks like The Prophet Song, Death on two legs and Bohemian Rhapsody that were just superior (IMHO).
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: April 09 2015 at 08:19
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Hi,
Bad comparison for me, but PG was an outstanding single LP (instead of a bloated pair!), while Queen's did not quite take to the airwaves right away. Led Zep was kinda "pre-sold", and bound and ready for another million and such. Queen, at the time, was just an after thought, but they stood up later, very well. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 09 2015 at 08:37
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Posted By: aglasshouse
Date Posted: April 09 2015 at 08:42
This is very true.
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Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: April 09 2015 at 10:51
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Queen II. I couldn't vote against maybe greatest Queen album. PG are ok but I like other LZ records more... A lot of filleron the PG as somebody here has said before me. ------------- 
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Posted By: Terakonin
Date Posted: April 11 2015 at 04:55
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Gotta go Queen II. ------------- You left a note in your perfect script Stay as long as you like I haven't left your bed since |
Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: April 11 2015 at 10:27
| Zep by a mile. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 12 2015 at 02:57
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Having now listened to Queen II , I can vote for PG with a clear conscience! Queen II is overshadowed by the brilliant Seven Seas Of Rye. Ogre Battle is just a bit of yawn imo. Other tracks are pretty much standard hard rock.
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: April 12 2015 at 06:03
wut ------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: April 26 2015 at 08:22
Queen II.------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: charles_ryder
Date Posted: May 07 2015 at 14:19
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It's hard to compare so different albums. But I vote for "Physical Graffiti": Zeppelin is my fav hard rock band. ------------- om mani padme hum |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: May 07 2015 at 14:28
| That's vund-da-ba! |
Posted By: Komandant Shamal
Date Posted: May 26 2015 at 19:25
| Both great 70s British heavy rock albums but i voted for Queen II as a sligthly more - as somebody already said - "magical" album as well... |
Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: May 29 2015 at 04:13
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Not a fair comparison....Queen II is a lot of fun, but Graffiti is prime Zeppelin. An iconic album that defined 70s rock. Queen II spent the mid 70s and 80s in relative obscurity only to be revived when a famous singer revealed that his favorite album of all-time was Queen II. The revival has been interesting considering how overlooked it had always been. ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 29 2015 at 09:40
I must have missed that.......who's this famous singer who loves Queen II.  ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: June 14 2015 at 09:18
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Queen 2 is a fine album. Quite a step up from the debut. Powerful, dramatic, pretty damn' awesome. One of the things I like about Graffiti are the numbers that are not obviously classic. For me the Boogie With Stu and other out takes from sessions just add a character to the album statement. It's not a concept album, nor a standard one but demonstrates a diversity in styles that I find welcoming and less predictable. Can't imagine Black Sabbath (for example) doing a Down By The Seaside). The only query I have with this album, is Sick Again's lyrics. I've never been one for songs about rock and roll rock star life styles... Not sure I see the relationship between the two albums though. A Night At The Opera v. Graffiti? Or II versus II maybe? Where does the significance happen? |
Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: July 08 2015 at 10:47
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Axel Rose raved about the album in a rock mag interview in the late 80s bringing it out of relative obscurity ("relative" being the key word - could any Queen LP ever really be considered obscure?), the Kurt Cobain did the same a few years later and the popularity of the album rose. I actually checked out Guns n Roses 'cause of that interview.....not my taste, but the acoustic side of GnR Lies ain't bad. ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: July 08 2015 at 10:52
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Rated PG for Physical Graffiti. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 05 2017 at 07:18
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Queen II
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 05 2017 at 14:40
Couldn't have said it better. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 05 2017 at 15:40
I tried but....
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