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Topic: Monty Python
Posted By: Stool Man
Subject: Monty Python
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 00:23
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Disregarding anything these guys did outside Monty Python (so forget about Time Bandits, Fawlty Towers, etc) which member of the Monty Python team is your favourite? ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 00:49
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They take it in turns to be a sort of favourite Python for the week, but all the shenanigans of that Python have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting, by a simple majority in the case of purely Python-related pranks... -------------  
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Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 01:30
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Palin although there is not really a big difference ------------- 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 01:35
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Gilliam, disregarding your post totally... ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 07:27
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Really tough call. I think it was John Cleese who hooked me initially (with the Dead Parrot routine), but I could give the vote to almost any of them. I guess I'll go with the gut response and go with Cleese. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Walton Street
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 07:34
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massive fan of all things Python ... All incredibly talented - but if I had to spend time with one of them - it would be Palin. He's very well rounded - the one Python that was always liked by the others... A kind family man who's funny as hell.
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Posted By: TeleStrat
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 08:38
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Considering the group only, John Cleese. (Considering outside the group, John Cleese)
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Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 09:06
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Of course the logical choice is to go with we are an anarcho-syndicalist commune, but I have to go with Gilliam because I love the animated scenes and characters in all the Python stuff. I believe he was the main author of the animations. ------------- 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 10:06
Michael Palin for this as much as anything -  |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 10:10
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All of them can be equally annoying and irritating and they all can be equally brilliant. Just to be completely contrary and chauvinistic, I'm going to go with Carol Cleavage, I mean, Cleveland though not literally, of course. Or do I? *nudge-nudge-wink-wink* ...hang on a minute... she must be in her 70s by now... So, erm, umm... Yes, I do mean "not literally". Harumph!
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Posted By: Walton Street
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 10:13
she was pretty astounding ... huuuuuuge ...tracts of land. polly was delicious in Faulty Towers as well ------------- "I know one thing: that I know nothing" - SpongeBob Socrates |
Dean wrote:Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 10:15
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Actually, Terry Jones makes me laugh - just to look at! ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: aglasshouse
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 10:40
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I would vote Graham, but you don't vote for kings. ------------- http://fryingpanmedia.com |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 10:42
Stop that - it's silly! ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 10:57
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Favourite sketch is "Archaeology Today". I'll vote for you for that Palin! I'll vote for you if I have to log onto a forum and eventually gain voting privileges to eventually chance across an Internet forum that has this very option. I would link it on You Tube, but sadly it cuts out before the pay off line about Arthur Negus.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 11:15
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Actually not really disregarding your post. I totally loved Gilliam's cartoons ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 11:21
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 11:26
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I with the Commune! Hey, he's oppressing me! Did you see him oppressing me?! ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 12:04
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I went for the chicken route. NI!! ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 12:06
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Each was integral to the whole. After all, you can't have egg bacon spam and sausage without the spam. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 12:08
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You can't have spam at all! ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 12:14
How about Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and spam. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 12:19
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Tarquin Fim Tim Lim Bim Wim Tim Lim Bus Stop F-Tang F-Tang Ole Biscuit Barrel. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 12:34
Okay then but only because it's you. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Cactus Choir
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 14:54
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Michael Palin partly for this genius ------------- "And now...on the drums...Mick Underwooooooooood!!!" "He's up the pub" |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 15:42
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Does someone have youtube vid of the Spam song? Can't seem to find it. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 16:00
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^ This might be what you're looking for: -------------
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 16:09
 Life is good again! A million thanks! ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 18:07
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I can't separate individual members from the collective, the definition of the sum being greater than the parts. So...... Neil Innes (cos I love the songs) ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 18:10
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The easy boring option. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 20:01
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I'm also going with "impossible to pick a favorite" only because I have no control over my own destiny. (Which means I'll probably turn into a blancmange pretty soon now.) Side question: has anyone here ever met a Python? I met Eric Idle after a show on one of his Greedy b*****d tours. He was very gracious and personable. ------------- "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 18 2015 at 22:51
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Cleese & Chapman are usually my answer to this. I'll give a vote to the departed. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 19 2015 at 16:35
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The one called Monty Python............. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: February 19 2015 at 16:43
 Classic Wu!------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: February 19 2015 at 17:40
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: February 20 2015 at 01:11
Rowan Atkinson diet  -------------  
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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: February 20 2015 at 05:01
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I voted for the anarcho-syndicalist option, but soon I realized that when I think about Monty Python, I first think of Graham Chapman. I guess that visualizing him as King Arthur must be the cause. |
Posted By: sublime220
Date Posted: February 20 2015 at 08:48
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Mr. Chapman ------------- There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark... |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: February 21 2015 at 03:40
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No votes yet for Eric Idle? What's the point of making a poll if you're just another prog fan surrounded by sweaty mindless oafs from Disco and X Factor (et bleedin' cetera) ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: February 21 2015 at 04:01
One must surmise Stewart, that you didn't vote for Idle Eric either....  ------------- What? |
Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: February 21 2015 at 04:09
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John Cleese
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 22 2015 at 11:44
Dancing in the dark again, hey Dean ... no worries, I can relate. Paul had the wrong lyric about 64 ... should have been about banging yer head to the wall, or the door!
Cleese for probably the better and disciplined actor, by maybe a hair!
Gilliam for his direction, and I think he added a dimention to the TV shows that made the skits and everything else more surrealistic and funny to watch and not have to follow ... !!!
All of the others are great. Love Neil Innes (though not an original Python but involved in several pieces of music) and Eric Idle, and I still crack up at "Rutland Times" ... which I'm trying to get the CD as the album is losing its shine! Didn't care for the Rutles, but all in all, they were OK with me, though at the time I was concentrating more on The Goons, and all the tapes from around the world ... it was an amazing trading group from Australia to London!
FOR ME, Python was not as much fun as The Goons ... and I liked the idea of having to IMAGINE the effects and the situations, which made it more fun for my visual mind. Seeing it all in front of me, only Gilliam's stuff made sense to me ... and the best one still is in "Baron M" when one of them turns stage left and they are in the desert ... smooth ... and very neat ... and a dream for a stage/film person! Changes of reality are always very hard, but The Goons owned that very well thanks to clever writing and sound effects. How can you not go along with ... "going up .... sound effect ..." or "going down .... sound effect ... " or scream going away and falling in the water ... "he's fallen in the water" ... or having a riot with Silent TNT ... that only idiots could hear it! I can just about remember and quote ... the parrot skit and maybe one other, but otherwise nothing else from Python. My favorite sound effect was always the trains (specially The Last Tram) going through the doors and windows ... the visualization of that was fantastic, but I did not find funny Cleese and others marching a la ... those guys ... we had seen enough of that in Lisbon in the 50's to actually find that funny ... ohhh ... the guns were live, btw!
I think TV changed how we "thought" and "saw" things ... and nowadays you have to be given ... the whole picture, because no one can "imagine" anymore. I find that sad! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 22 2015 at 12:34
Should I point out that Innes was not a Python? |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: February 22 2015 at 12:47
Updated and corrected. Neil was an original in the Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band, which in my book was far better than Monty Python, and a lot crazier, but just did not have a TV show!
(GRIMMS is great btw ... worth getting as are the albums by Mike McGear (Paul Beatle's brother)
In 1973 Neil worked with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Roberts_%28musician%29" rel="nofollow - Andy Roberts , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Henri" rel="nofollow - Adrian Henri , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_McGough" rel="nofollow - Roger McGough , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_McCartney" rel="nofollow - Mike McGear , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Patten" rel="nofollow - Brian Patten , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gorman_%28musician%29" rel="nofollow - John Gorman , David Richards, John Megginson, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ollie_Halsall" rel="nofollow - Ollie Halsall , and Gerry Conway in the band GRIMMS, who released their self-titled album and Rocking Duck in 1973 followed by their last album Sleepers in 1976. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Innes#cite_note-5" rel="nofollow - [5]
In the mid-1970s, Innes became closely associated with the TV series http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Pythons_Flying_Circus" rel="nofollow - Monty Python's Flying Circus . He played a major role in performing and writing songs and sketches for the final series in 1974 (after http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cleese" rel="nofollow - John Cleese left). He wrote a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squib_%28writing%29" rel="nofollow - squib of a song called "George III" for the episode "The Golden Age of Ballooning", which was sung by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flirtations_%28R%26B_musical_group%29" rel="nofollow - The Flirtations , but billed onscreen as the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronettes" rel="nofollow - Ronettes ). He also wrote the song "When Does a Dream Begin?", used in "Anything Goes: The Light Entertainment War". He co-wrote the "Most Awful Family in Britain" sketch and played a humorous stilted guitar version of the theme song, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Liberty_Bell_March" rel="nofollow - The Liberty Bell March , during the credits of the last episode, "Party Political Broadcast". He is one of only two non-Pythons to ever be credited writers for the TV series, the other being http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Adams" rel="nofollow - Douglas Adams (who co-wrote another sketch in "Party Political Broadcast"). He appeared on stage with the Pythons in New York City in 1976, performing the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Dylan" rel="nofollow - Bob Dylanesque "Protest Song" (complete with harmonica) on the album http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python_Live_at_City_Center" rel="nofollow - Monty Python Live at City Center . He was introduced as Raymond Scum. After his introduction he told the audience, "I've suffered for my music. Now it's your turn." In 1982 he travelled to the States with the Pythons again, appearing in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python_Live_at_the_Hollywood_Bowl" rel="nofollow - Monty Python Live at the Hollywood Bowl . He performed the songs " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Sweet_to_Be_an_Idiot" rel="nofollow - How Sweet to Be an Idiot " and " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Im_the_Urban_Spaceman" rel="nofollow - I'm the Urban Spaceman ". He also appeared as one of the singing "Bruces" in the Philosopher Sketch and as a Church Policeman in that sketch. Innes wrote the songs for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python_and_the_Holy_Grail" rel="nofollow - Monty Python and the Holy Grail . He appeared in the film as a head-bashing monk, the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serf" rel="nofollow - serf crushed by the giant wooden rabbit, and the leader of Sir Robin's minstrels. He also had a small role in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Gilliam" rel="nofollow - Terry Gilliam 's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabberwocky_%28film%29" rel="nofollow - Jabberwocky . His collaborations with Monty Python and other artists were documented in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_film" rel="nofollow - musical film http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seventh_Python" rel="nofollow - The Seventh Python (2008). ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: February 22 2015 at 13:50
Not sure what classic Wu is .....  but I suppose it would be between Palin and Cleese for me...like them both equally . ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: February 22 2015 at 14:43
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Hmm. Being alive when this drivel was first broadcast I can remember what came before it so it actually wasn't that special at the time. Aside from Milligoon and his ex-army chums with their ex-army humour, there was a radio programme called I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again and a televisual programme for kiddies called Do Not Adjust Your Set. DNAYS was the infant version of MPFC and much of the humour, writing and anarchic surrealism was identical: Looks familiar does it not? ------------- What? |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: February 22 2015 at 16:22
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^ Ah, yes, DNAYS, Q, all the other great surreal humour shows of the time and place. The Pythons probably only won out because of PBS over Stateside, and those films of theirs. And if anyone is taking this seriously, they're doing it wrong. -------------
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: February 22 2015 at 16:28
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^ No, I'm sorry, I'm not prepared to pursue my line of enquiry any further as I think this is getting too silly. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |