First experience of TD with a laser show, I see  It was really frightening the first time I listened to Phaedra as well 

I heard it on Youtube as well, I will certainly get it if I see it somewhere. This reminded of a  https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10934038_10153174577284341_2442246594662439116_n.jpg?oh=873f1f483b266eaa500fc2122dcc0ca3&oe=5566B305&__gda__=1431298554_03e3184fa9d482d34107b85845f4aeb4" rel="nofollow - photo  by another portuguese fan that made me drool the other day 

I don't know that album, I'll have to try that one. It's probably Jerome's doing, his music with Loom has lots of drums, but fortunately not bad like those 90's TD albums 

A friend introduced me to them (and gave me their first album because he didn't like it)

I'm not sure if I liked it either but I began to buy all of their albums as they came out

(I have almost everything until Underwater Sunlight) until I couldn't find them in the stores anymore.

I have several of the soundtracks as well ..

 

Rubycon is my ultimate favourite - I spend a lot of hours in my teen years listening to that with the headphones on, watching the fantastic movies my minds eye created to go along with the soundtrack I was hearing.

 

I'd love to find more of their stuff, I just cant afford the other 80 albums right now :)

So what an intro to TD........the big sleep in search of hades.....except I know what the title mean now. The album is faultless other than a bit short.

Tangram was the cherry on the top, Rubycon, Rocochet, Force majeure, Phaedra, Cyclone all there too.

The first track that really made an impression on me was "Choronzon." Uptempo, rhythmic, unlike anything I'd heard before. What really hooked me was the melody, the lead synth line (presumably played by Johannes. The tag I immediately gave this "type" of music, which was reinforced by subsequently purchasing and listening to Exit, Encore, Tangram, Logos, Rubycon and Stratosfear, was simply "futuremusic."

 

The albums sounded like soundtracks to other places and times. I did not know the term "progressive rock" yet and though I may possibly have heard the sound of a Mellotron previously, hearing it used in Tangerine Dream would suffice as the first time because of how much it was used on the '70s albums and how distinctly it left its mark. Phaedra and Rubycon sound the way they do because of it. I could be wrong, but I'm not aware of another progressive artist who recorded complete Mellotron-only pieces (with no accompaniment from any other instrument or sound device) before TD.

 

More or less I was immediately a fan and indulged the pursuit of spending more money on TD's music and finding out more about them, as they were an enigma and those were pre-Web days. Eventually, I added solo albums by TD alumni and music by other artists who were no doubt inspired by this amazing trailblazing group. Tangerine Dream was the ultimate gateway drug.

I got into their music only in my early twenties, when I began to discover the German scene starting from Popol Vuh's soundtrack to "Aguirre". My first TD album was Ricochet, and I just got caught in their music. Something curious: in 1993 I bought a vinil copy of "Phaedra"... it had two B-Sides!!! And I was so fool that I went back to the record store to have it changed. Probably nowadays it could be regarded as a rare misprinting, and be worth a fortune!!!

As I've mentioned before I am very fond of the 1979-1985 era of TD. Even the oft overlooked album Le Parc has some gems like Yellowstone Park and LA Streethawk. 90's was a bit MEH but then the last 10 years or so has seen some very solid releases. My favourite of those is undoubtedly Purgatorio where they use about 6 classically trained female singers. I listen to that a lot , probably more than any TD release. If I was to post a link it would All The Steps To Heaven but I couldn't find that. So instead

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc9yKftgSsI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc9yKftgSsI

 

 

Add one more year to get 1986 in there. Underwater Sunlight is indispensable. Le Parc was pretty well-received, IIRC. It was the first time I saw an official 'promo video' by TD, for "Tiergarten," which aired regularly on VH-1's Jazz/New Age program New Visions. Johannes left on such a high note. Do we know why he left? I never caught any hints of bad blood between he and Edgar, as opposed to Chris (who apparently has not commented on Edgar's passing, to my knowledge).

 

Long over due thread, thanks Michael!  Yikes, a doctor's procedure while hearing some TD spooky stuff for the first time....

Trying to recover my failing brain RAM, I can't remember which album I got them first.  It was either Stratosfear, Tangram, or Force Majeure?  I do remember it was the late 80s as I was tired of the rock scene (prog included) and migrating into the world of instrumental type music (then a lot of it was classified as New Age...always disliked that term for some reason).  Just by album cover alone and reading the instruments used and no vocals I picked it up....and never turned back!  Started to gobble up TD albums.  I think Force Majuere is probably my favorite...but that changes now and then to others 

I have not ventured into anything past the Le Parc album, so I am not familiar with any of the latest stuff.  Anyone got any suggestions of the later stuff to start with...say late 90s on?

 

You need Underwater Sunlight (1986), Optical Race (1988), and Miracle Mile (1989) at the very least, before you move past the '80s.

Firestarter is the right one (Drew Barrymore, George C Scott) - based on the Stephen King book ..

Miracle Mile is amazing. Took me forever to find the DVD - excited to hear that there is a Blu-Ray release coming .. thanks for that

 

My recollection is that Tournado is okay but not keen on Valentine's Wheels although its a while since I've listened to them properly.

I've just ordered Booster VII but I had to put the brakes on buying the 3 CD set as I'm paying out so much for CD's at the moment and not actually having enough time to listen to them properly!

I was listening (yet) again) to Ricochet and thinking of doing a piece "inspired by it" - not a rip off - on the next album. To take a sequenced line and then pass it through an echo is a fantastic idea, absolutely revolutionary for the time. I just find the early stuff stunning, when you consider the technology they had. 

Mind you, the technology available - and the constraints around it - meant pieces had to be more carefully assembled and orchestrated. Which is why they sound like they do. 

If it's recorded by Froese, Franke and Schmoelling, you can't go wrong.

 

I'll admit that as a whole, while I like the album it doesn't radiate the same intensity (for me) as Tangram, Exit, Thief, White Eagle, Firestarter, etc. The title track itself, however, is stellar.

Davesax1965 wrote: Mind you, the technology available - and the constraints around it - meant pieces had to be more carefully assembled and orchestrated. Which is why they sound like they do.

 

Precisely. Synthesizers and sequencing had advanced enough to assemble exquisite textures but there were still limitations where polyphony and timbres were concerned, but I think it's that balance that gave us such fantastic compositions. I remember in one of the old TDIFC newsletters a page of sheet music from "Mojave Plan" was reproduced (presumably tabbed by Johannes), so stuff was being worked out on paper, to an extent. For this same reason, I've found much of the music made by the "successors" of Berlin School to be less interesting than TD.

 

It was better when each guy had to do exactly 33%...in the 90s, things were much different.

 

 

My earliest memory of TD was that video of "Tiergarten" that verslibre mentioned on VH-1, so I guess it was 1986 (when the "New Visions" show first aired).  I found Underwater Sunlight on LP at my local shop, and I remember being mesmerized by the cover, but I didn't buy it at the time (I opted for the ELP's "Tarkus" on cassette instead).  As a matter of fact, except for "Tiergarten", I don't think I heard anything else from them until a friend in college let me make a cassette copy of the "Legend" soundtrack, which I was mostly interested in because of the Jon Anderson track.  Eventually I warmed up to the entire album.  In the early 1990s I joined the tadream mailing list and, with the guidance of the good people on that list, I filled in most of the TD back catalog, along with all the solo CDs I could find.  I kick myself for not buying that copy of Froese's Kamikaze soundtrack that I held in my hands.

They were on my "buy on sight" list for a while...until I heard "Tyranny of Beauty" and "Goblin's Club."  After that I bought one or two more, and decided that they just weren't for me anymore.  But with Edgar's death, I've been re-evaluating that thought.  I've been listening to the Sonic Poems series on youtube, and I bought the Zeitgeist Concert on iTunes, and I'm happy to say that these are all excellent.  I look forward to purchasing more, including the Booster series.

Tops in my TD library at the moment would be Force Majeure, Tangram, and White Eagle.  It's been almost nothing but TD & Froese since I heard the bad news.

Here's the aforementioned video for "Tiergarten," where it all began for me.

The soundtracks were mostly very good, but the movies were often a different story!  Man, did I sit through a lot of BAD movies.  :)  But among the really good ones:

 

The soundtrack for The Keep is something else - I hunted for it for years - paid $50 for 'the orange' version and it was complete bunk.

But i did find a download of it by accident and it's the real deal - i have no idea where it came from.

I'd love a proper release but i guess there's no chance in hell of that now.

another soundtrack i like is for a fairly hard to find film called Wavelength

See below.

 

It's getting a Blu-ray release!

Walton Street wrote: another soundtrack i like is for a fairly hard to find film called Wavelength

 

I saw that on HBO back in the early 80s. I wanted to watch it again, so last year I resorted to watching it on Youtube. It's a "B" grade sci-fi flick but the TD score makes it worth it.

Not really a fan of the movie Legend - despite the presence of Mia Sara.  

 

I bought the movie DVD of the Keep and it has become a massive favorite even though it was kind of low-budget and a little campy. Gabriel Byrne's SS haircut is incredible! The music is fabulous though, really MADE the film better. 

 

i take it that it's not an official release?

I have it on Laserdisc but i don't think it's been on DVD yet. Because of the score it's been tied up legally for ever.

 

I have the book (got it signed by the author) and he craps on the film at every opportunity.

He and another guy recorded an unofficial commentary trashing it.

 

I love the film though - fantastic cast, very stylish, and the score is killer

 

F. Paul Wilson is quite vocal about dismissing TD's score. He doesn't think the film should have had an electronic score (and he doesn't like the film, anyway).

 

On a live webcast I heard, FPW also mentioned the existence of the LP release of The Keep, which as we all know is the greatest urban legend surrounding TD. The existence of the LP (supposedly recalled a week after its release) is regarded by most fans as a myth.

 

the music is out there though .. i don't think there was any way to isolate the score on any of the film media ..

not sure what the source was but it's the real deal

 

"Hallo everyone - as all of you I was shocked by Edgar's sudden departure. Just a month ago I visited him in Austria making plans for a new project. Well, there will be a new project, and Edgar's fingerprints will be all over it. His personality will permeate everything that is composed/produced under the TD name."

 

 

"Thank you all for your kind comments. I'm just now sitting in a plane returning from Austria after meeting with Bianca and the TD crew.  After many, many years, last October I felt compelled to return to making music - that's when I contacted Edgar and visited him in Austria in early January - those were some of the most emotional and intense days in my life. We're now in the midst of plannng the next phase of TD, I believe it will be magical!

 

There was a story about early days with TD that Edgar Froese talked about the "echo chambers" and how the effect sometimes didn't work ... and it was a very funny comment. Wish I could find that article, because it was hilarious.

 

Jerome also remarked that he will not "support or merge with" any tributes, "wannabe lineups," reunions or concerts, etc. 

What stuck out for me is his dismissal of 1) capitalizing on the brand when he has the first volume of yet another compilation that is drawn (only) from his time in TD, and 2) "chumming up" — when, wait, who exactly is it that he is currently in a band with? A former member of TD, right?

 

Something is afoot...

 

 

http://chrisjenkinse-music.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://chrisjenkinse-music.bandcamp.com/

 

 

 

 

 

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The "terrifying" part is a bit histrionic for prog music vets like us, but the soundtrack is worth a listen!  

 

 

 

 

That's pretty cool, but it doesn't really fall into TD's wheelhouse. I'd say the overall result has much more in common with Michael Stearns, and some of Steve Roach's output, too.

Peter Baumann's new solo album will be released May 20th:

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I think I'll have a listen before I purchase - mostly because I have far too much Tangerine Dream and Tangerine Dream-like music in my collection....but if it's good it's good. 

This was pretty interesting btw - I had no idea he'd been studying psychology and philosophy:

Apropos Baumann and Tangerine Dream. 

 

 

Though I knew about TD very well, it took a few years before I started buying their records, beginning with “Ricochet” (excellent choice for a starter), “Tangram”, the “Legend” STK, “White Eagle”, “Logos”; then I got brave and bought the “In the Beginning” box, which collected their pre-Virgin works plus the unreleased “Green Desert.”

This is the tip of the technical iceberg. We have two modular synths already and several analogue synths. 

If all goes well, and I can find some suitable musicians, I'll be doing live gigs (UK) by the end of 2017. That's the theory. ;-)

A second synth goes into the blank panel at the bottom and then it becomes even more complicated. ;-) 
As far as I know, no one has ever rack mounted these particular sequencers before. A second rack will hold mixers and effects processors. All other synths go through the mixer as well. 

And there'll be two (retro) synth players, hopefully a drummer and guitarist, I double up on sax, my brother doubles up on guitar and I'm also hand building a vintage psychedelic lightshow. ;-) We'll also be using reel to reel tape players for background sound effects. 

Let's see if it all happens. ;-)

BTW, Documentary is coming... 

I initially thought it was a rerelease of the Bootleg boxset, which I already own, but it isn't. I am completely over the moon! More live TD from the luscious 70s?!?!?! You betcha. 

To be fair, I've heard all of these tunes before over ze JooToob, but it's nice to have my own copy. 

The sound quality is alright, but don't expect to hear a Steven Wilson-like clarity though. Most of the cuts still have that slightly fuzzy feel you often get from live albums cut during the 70s. I don't mind really. I can hear and differentiate between the different instruments and am never in any doubt as to whom is playing what (almost that is).

Fans of Stratosfear and Phaedra, in particular, should definitely have a look see, because these 4 discs contain the aftermath of those seminal records....but in true TD fashion it's all improvised within certain sounds and rehearsed grooves. You never get a full TRACK from a record though, which is one of my absolute favourite things about this band. 

I can just imagine buying one of their LPs during the 70s - spinning that sucker like it was going out of fashion - remembering every little sound and musical gesture....and then buying tickets to see them tour the given album - finding out you don't know a peep and as a consequence stand absolutely no chance of whistling along as you've practised during late night weed seances.

Agree for Midnight in Tula which is the weak point of White Eagle (an underrated album IHMO).

However I do enjoy Cinnamon Road.

I've been listening to Quinoa a few times over the last week or so and wanted to find out a bit more about it - interesting facts, members views/reviews etc.  But, I can't find it listed in any of the Tang Dream albums in Prog Archives.  Is this an oversight, or is there a reason why the album is not listed?

Here's a http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=10481" rel="nofollow - link to the album page.

I've listened to Invisible Limits a few time's while driving with the volume turned up and the sudden bell noise right after the three minute mark caught me by surprise a few times

 

On that note:

 

Stratosfear — — — one of the GREATEST albums from TD!

The problem I have with it is that, as someone who's into older synth equipment (you might have noticed) the arrival of new technology, in the form of poly synths and digital synthesizers meant that the music changed. Tangerine Dream are so linked to electronic music developments that the history of electronic instruments and TD themselves is virtually identical. 

I might do a thread about the development of synth technology over the years. Well, at some point. ;-) 

To me, TD is the early experimental stuff and the use of their Moog modular and sequencers. I've got pretty much an "early TD " music setup here which many of you could probably spend a pleasant afternoon on. ;-) It's great fun to play around with, a real experimenters' set up, rather than one where you just press a button and get a preset sound. 

I'm quite appalled that the band is seemingly continuing without Edgar Froese. Tribute ? Or moneyspinner ?