Beatlemaniacs vs Deadheads
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Topic: Beatlemaniacs vs Deadheads
Posted By: marktheshark
Subject: Beatlemaniacs vs Deadheads
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 19:56
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I'm a Beatlemaniac 1st, Progrocker 2nd. So some of you who are Beatlemaniacs (and I know there are some here) have probably been this route before. Being a teenager in the 70s, I've come across more than my share of Deadheads that think The Beatles are overated 'cause they didn't jam or stay trippy. This is a course to teach you the basics of shutting them up. It's really simple, just follow these basic guidelines:
1. Point to their tie-died teeshirt and remind them that the Summer Of Love ended in Sept '67. 2. Ask why Bob Weir attended their final performance at Candlestick Park in Aug '66. 3. Ask why the Dead insist on doing Beatle covers on their live shows, and there have been many. 4. Note that The Beatles gave up LSD in '68 and thought it was passe while the Dead continued with the Timothy Leary roadshow. 5. Mention the fact that The Beatles saw no need to do 20 min jams to do great music. 6. The Beatles didn't need to hire an outside lyricist like Robert Hunter. 7. Remind them that The Beatles were able sing in 3-part harmony and in tune even on stage. That should just about do it. I hope this course was informative and helps you in your quest of being a true Beatlemaniac. Thank you. |
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Posted By: Vegetable_Man
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 04:48
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Haha,
my best friend is a total Deadhead, and he always says that the Beatles
couldn't play, "Dude it doesn't matter if they can write, they can't
jam, they can't play, man." The Grateful Dead are fun to watch
and listen to live(better if you aren't sober), but really, imo,
they're nothing extraordinary. Yeah, I hate it when I wanna put on the Beatles, and he wants to watch six hours straight of the Grateful Dead. Too many drugs=lack of ability to end songs. |
Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 08:15
You what I think I'll do? I'm gonna find a Deadhead forum to plant this post in! Nothing like stirring up a hornet's nest, huh? 
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Posted By: barbs
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 10:13
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Well, theres that groove that stoners like to get into where time passes like, how did I get to be here now from when I can remember I was last and the trip was inside my head and outside this room man.  A repetitive set. Children like routine and the fun of being stoned is to feel free of any responsibility (called no hangups) as in 'chill out man', but you need the security of routine (regression/making up for a unhappy childhood perhaps) so thats why the dead played long repetitive sets IMO, and that is why some of the more mellow repetitive music is more favoured when stoned.  Like nursery rhyme songs. 'Rock a bye baby', over and over. (There are always exceptions to the rule though as the kind of effect THC has is dependant not only on the grade of the substance but on the personality type and their current state of mind 
and any negative flashback material they might have hanging around in
the psyche is most likely to cause a pretty bad if not devestating trip
if they have taken that little piece of blue litmus paper as well.)
Overall though, the dead are part of that drug culture developed in the
60s and 70s and most of their creative influence comes from being
immersed in that juice.The Beatles influence is unchallenged. Trying to compare the two IMO is like apples and oranges or perhaps sweet potato soaked in garlic butter, garnished with herbs and filled with bacon, cheese and origano vs a plain old spud. They were a phenomenon without parallel and they tried lots of stuff. I appreciate their music because I think it has aged well and is still relevant.  ------------- Eternity |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 10:58
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What's a deadhead? I'm too young to know ... Edit: Is this related to Grateful Dead? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 12:08
You got it! Deadheads are an obsessive group of fans that basically travel around the country when the Dead were on tour and see as many of their shows as possible. I myself liked the Dead. I always thought they were good live jam band although they couldn't sing worth a sh*t. I saw them once in '73. But I just couldn't get into the Deadhead scene. To me they were just trying to live a style that long past. To me The Beatles packed more into a 4 min song than The Dead could in a 20 min jam. |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:Posted By: Vegetable_Man
Date Posted: August 13 2005 at 19:52
Yeah... to be honest there are very few bands that I've enjoyed stoned as much as the Dead. Maybe Ween. But I'm not always stoned, so I don't really listen to them that much. Garcia and his gang may not neccessarily have 'good' voices, but they're unique and enjoyable. Kind of like Roger Waters, not really a good voice, but a cool one. On a slightly unrelated note, Bob Weir is like a walking anti-drug campaign. |