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Points: 2755 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2014 at 10:51
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hes duo album With Chris Squire is quite amamzing really, full of solid prog gems

Squire has a real talent for getting unsung collaborator's to carry him,
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Points: 4812 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2014 at 11:41
Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:


Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

hes duo album With Chris Squire is quite amamzing really, full of solid prog gems

Squire has a real talent for getting unsung collaborator's to carry him,


Ouch! So what you're saying is that Mr. Squire needs to be carried. My Merriam-Webster's dictionary has one definition of "carry" as being: "to be chiefly or solely responsible for the success, effectiveness, or continuation of <a player capable of ~ing a team> <her performance carried the play>"

I think Mr. Squire's talents don't necessitate this kind of action.
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Points: 13244 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2014 at 12:40
Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

I never really got into Yes, because I don't like Jon Anderson's voice, but if Open Your Eyes was bad it probably was because the band as a whole made the wrong choices. 
Billy Sherwood is a solid musician, regardless of whether or not you consider his works prog or progressive. If someone gets dismissed for not sounding like Yes, maybe the people dismissing him should reconsider. If it sounds like Yes, its Yes - if it sounds like Billy Sherwood, its Billy Sherwood. 

Er, ah, what?

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Points: 4812 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2014 at 13:27
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:


Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

I never really got into Yes, because I don't like Jon Anderson's voice, but if Open Your Eyes was bad it probably was because the band as a whole made the wrong choices. 
Billy Sherwood is a solid musician, regardless of whether or not you consider his works prog or progressive. If someone gets dismissed for not sounding like Yes, maybe the people dismissing him should reconsider. If it sounds like Yes, its Yes - if it sounds like Billy Sherwood, its Billy Sherwood. 

Er, ah, what?

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Yes I do. My problem here is your implied distinction between "prog" and "progressive." One is merely an abbreviation of the other, right?
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Points: 13244 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2014 at 15:08
Yes and no. On this forum prog is often used as an abbreviation for progressive rock, while I used progressive here as a shorthand for progressive music in general. You can leave out one or the other in reading, it doesn't change my point. :-)
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Points: 12810 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 05 2014 at 21:20
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:


Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

I never really got into Yes, because I don't like Jon Anderson's voice, but if Open Your Eyes was bad it probably was because the band as a whole made the wrong choices. 
Billy Sherwood is a solid musician, regardless of whether or not you consider his works prog or progressive. If someone gets dismissed for not sounding like Yes, maybe the people dismissing him should reconsider. If it sounds like Yes, its Yes - if it sounds like Billy Sherwood, its Billy Sherwood. 

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I guess Open you Eyes sounds like Yes with Billy Shwerwood on board...
I don't remember the whole album so well, but the music specially sounds more like Yes... though a rather uninspired Yes. The vocal melodies sound a bit more like Sherwood.
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I actually first encountered the man through CIRCA (just knowing it "has Yes members in it"), which I thought was mediocre until I saw them live (free tickets) at which point I thought they were terrible. I was not surprised at all to find out he was behind Open Your Eyes.

He does actually have decent work in his band World Trade, and a couple of the more recent solo albums though. Listening to Conspiracy again, this is much better than I recall. There's even a slight Kevin Gilbert vibe. Given all this, it's probable that Sherwood isn't even the main reason Open Your Eyes (or even CIRCA) sucks. After all, Union might be their worst and while he was on it, he doesn't appear to have had much input. It's just that Yes truly sucked by that point.


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