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twosteves 
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 Posted: July 24 2014 at 09:36 |
 rdtprog wrote:
how funny that after listening to this new album, past albums like Union, Big Generator and Talk seems better that we always thought...
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This new album is way more classy, tasteful and cool than those albums IMO---with better timeless prog feel and better cross over pop songs---and not music stuck in the 80's with leather pants and bad hair. 
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Posted: July 25 2014 at 01:33 |
twosteves wrote:
rdtprog wrote:
how funny that after listening to this new album, past albums like Union, Big Generator and Talk seems better that we always thought...
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This new album is way more classy, tasteful and cool than those albums IMO---with better timeless prog feel and better cross over pop songs---and not music stuck in the 80's with leather pants and bad hair. |
Talk is a very good album imo
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: July 25 2014 at 02:11 |
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I'd like to see all of us, pushing 70 (give or take) and see how energetic and revolutionary we will be.....
Can't expect another Gates Of Delerium anymore. Heck, even Magma give us some tame (but excellent) recording as Felicite Thosz. Can't expect another De Futura at their age.......though they do a decent live rendition these days....
......lets be glad these guys are still a going concern.
Having said, Nik Turner turned out a very special album recently to rival classic Hawkwind (DoReMi through to Warrior At The Edge Of Time in quality) so who knows really..... Can't wait to get my hands on the vinyl issue of Heaven And Earth. |
hey I agree that Nik Turner album is a treasure to rival Hawkwind's last few. 
The latest Yes is another case in point. I wrote a review and it was more entertaining personally than having to listen to that syrupy backwash that used to be Yes the great Prog legends.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: July 25 2014 at 02:14 |
twosteves wrote:
rdtprog wrote:
how funny that after listening to this new album, past albums like Union, Big Generator and Talk seems better that we always thought...
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This new album is way more classy, tasteful and cool than those albums IMO---with better timeless prog feel and better cross over pop songs---and not music stuck in the 80's with leather pants and bad hair. |
Union, Big Generator and Talk are THE WORST and the new album is better by far. well, one tenth better and thats enough to avoid the dreaded one star.
Those giving only a star rating should revisit Believe Again, Subway Walls and Light of the Ages - great songs undoubtedly and worth a listen any day of the week.
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rdtprog
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Posted: July 25 2014 at 03:30 |
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
twosteves wrote:
rdtprog wrote:
how funny that after listening to this new album, past albums like Union, Big Generator and Talk seems better that we always thought...
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This new album is way more classy, tasteful and cool than those albums IMO---with better timeless prog feel and better cross over pop songs---and not music stuck in the 80's with leather pants and bad hair. |
Union, Big Generator and Talk are THE WORST and the new album is better by far. well, one tenth better and thats enough to avoid the dreaded one star.
Those giving only a star rating should revisit Believe Again, Subway Walls and Light of the Ages - great songs undoubtedly and worth a listen any day of the week. |
I give the new album 2 stars 1/2 only because if i put 3 stars, that wouldn't be fair to my earlier ratings on past Yes's albums.Ok, maybe the new one is equal or better than Big Generator, but not the others who have more progressive tunes than the last one. And the big disappointment about the last is the tiny production.
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rdtprog
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Posted: July 25 2014 at 04:03 |
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
twosteves wrote:
rdtprog wrote:
how funny that after listening to this new album, past albums like Union, Big Generator and Talk seems better that we always thought...
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This new album is way more classy, tasteful and cool than those albums IMO---with better timeless prog feel and better cross over pop songs---and not music stuck in the 80's with leather pants and bad hair. |
Union, Big Generator and Talk are THE WORST and the new album is better by far. well, one tenth better and thats enough to avoid the dreaded one star.
Those giving only a star rating should revisit Believe Again, Subway Walls and Light of the Ages - great songs undoubtedly and worth a listen any day of the week. |
By the way i read your review after my earlier post and it was nice as usual, so descriptive and elaborate, so why are we arguing? I thought you were going to give this a 3 stars at least and say only positive thing about it.
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Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: July 25 2014 at 18:43 |
^^^ Hi rdtprog no argument from me about your opinion, its as valid as mine. But I noticed lots of 1 star reviews which means this new release is as bad as those others Talk, Union, Big G, and thats not a fair assessment is it? No I wasnt referring to your review or rating..
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The Doctor
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Posted: July 25 2014 at 19:11 |
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What's all the Talk hate? That was a great album and has one of my favorite post-1980 Yes songs on it, Endless Dream.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: July 25 2014 at 19:15 |
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Agree, Doctor, `Talk' is a terrific album, a real one-off in the Yes discography, and certainly far more consistent than albums near it like `Union', `ABWH', `Open Your Eyes' etc.
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Dellinger
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Posted: July 25 2014 at 21:59 |
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I wouldn't regard Talk as a terrible album either. But I don't find it particularly great either. Just a nice album with many nice poppy proggy songs that aren't particularly great nor bad... but it's got "Endless Dream", which I do find wonderful and as great as anything else the band has done. A perfect example of how to do a classic prog epic with a modern sound (at the time) instead of trying to imitate past glories.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: July 27 2014 at 06:22 |
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I will give Talk another spin and then review then. been awhile since I heard that but I remember being annoyed at the difference in sound at the time
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Michael678
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Posted: July 27 2014 at 08:11 |
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hmmm... i see, apparently Rabin and Anderson both have a soft spot for it as i read in an article i read earlier this year.
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CosmicVibration
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Posted: July 28 2014 at 09:16 |
First time I heard Talk it was just ok. Then I listened to it again on a high quality
system and it just came alive. Overall SQ
on this recording is excellent and the bottom end hits hard. State of Play literally buckles the front
windshield of my car.
I would rate Talk as very good-excellent… Phenomenal rating is reserved for CTTE and
Relayer, with Going for the One and TFTO
approaching that status.
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chopper
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Posted: July 28 2014 at 09:46 |
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I agree, Talk is a very good album. Nobody's mentioned "I Am Waiting" so far, imo it's the best song of the Rabin era.
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