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Posted: October 06 2013 at 10:22 |
 progbethyname wrote:
Oh man. Your in for a treat. These 40th anniversary editions are so worth it, money and time wise.
My favourite is IN THE COURT OF THE CRIMSON KING.
An exceptional 2 disc set that has great demos and Rough takes on ' I talk to the wind' and moonchild. Really neat.
And of couse an incredible 5.1 disc remastered by Wilson.
Other honorable mentions RED, ISLANDS, LIZARD and LARKS TOUGUES IN ASPIC.
having King Crimson in 5.1 audio surround sound is worth buying them enough!
Darkshade. It's a real treat. Highly worth it, but be prepared to pay 20$ or over for them. ;) |
Also..it's interesting to hear how instruments were increased in volume on the re-mixes of the 40th anniversary editions. Certain levels of instruments were also decreased in volume or even completely mixed out. This was suggested to Steve Wilson by Robert Fripp. The new dynamics in volume/presence of instruments were produced by Wilson having individual tracks to work with. The end result gives the first 4 K.C. albums a more modern sounding production. The 30th anniversary editions are remastered. The 40th anniversary editions are re-mixes ..and there is quite a contrast between the 2. The original recordings NEVER gave these albums justice. When I hear the re-mixes..those instruments soar through me. It's as if they were disregarded in the analog and early digital age. Compare the 30th and 40th sometime. You won't believe the difference. After hearing the re-mix on the 40th..I never want to return to that lame sounding 30th anniversary edition again. The 40th anniversary editions cost more because the sound of the recordings were changed beyond any step taken ever, ever..before. This time the sound surpasses all attempts of the past. I have yet to hear Larks' and Starless and Bible Black. I hope to soon.
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Posted: October 06 2013 at 07:35 |
verslibre wrote:
FYE = For Your Entertainment. FYE is the music store chain owned by TransWorld. They also own Wherehouse. |
oh ive never heard of it
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Posted: October 05 2013 at 19:46 |
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FYE = For Your Entertainment. FYE is the music store chain owned by TransWorld. They also own Wherehouse.
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Posted: October 05 2013 at 16:35 |
Michael678 wrote:
darkshade wrote:
Michael678 wrote:
darkshade wrote:
OK, no one yell at me, but aside from The Power To Believe, I've never bought a hard copy of any King Crimson albums.
**deflects vegetables**
KC is one of those bands I got into during a time when I didn't buy a lot of albums, either because of lack of funds, or other reasons. By the time I got into buying albums more regularly, I knew the KC discography, and never felt like picking any of the albums up.
Well, these new 40th Anniversary reissues that Steven Wilson did have kept me intrigued, and I'm now looking into getting some of them. But I haven't completely followed the news surrounding their release.
1st question is: Which one is the best one?
2nd question is: Are all 13 studio albums reissued?
3rd question is: Are the reissues significantly different that the older versions? If so, how dramatic are the differences? Will I miss the old versions if I get the new ones?
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this definitely goes along with me and Yes. I only have 2 multi-disc compilation albums, but i want to have some of their studio albums. some of them are pricey indeed, but i havent found any from Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, etc. im interested in the 2003 reissued stuff of all the albums up to and including 90125 can someone lend me a hand on that one |
All of Yes' 70s albums, including Drama, are pretty cheap on Amazon. Tales is a little pricier, but not by much.
I've seen Yes albums in FYE. I'm a little surprised you couldn't find any Yes in Best Buy (as crappy as their CD selection is).
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Yeah, i havent found any Yes CDs in 2 years. (the first one was the first album i got from Target called The Ultimate Yes: 35th Anniversary Collection) i recommend going to Amazon or eBay for Yes stuff |
and on that note what does FYE mean?
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Posted: October 05 2013 at 16:33 |
Xonty wrote:
I tend to buy the 30th anniversary ones because they're about £5 cheaper and I really prefer quantity to quality in albums. I'd probably get a little tired of the album if it took 2 or 3 times longer until I can buy the next one, but I would love to buy 40th anniversary's. You should get them if money's not a big issue for you.
Also, to answer the 3rd question, the quality isn't really incredibly different but it is a little better  |
im from the US lol
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Posted: October 05 2013 at 15:45 |
I tend to buy the 30th anniversary ones because they're about £5 cheaper and I really prefer quantity to quality in albums. I'd probably get a little tired of the album if it took 2 or 3 times longer until I can buy the next one, but I would love to buy 40th anniversary's. You should get them if money's not a big issue for you.
Also, to answer the 3rd question, the quality isn't really incredibly different but it is a little better |
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Posted: October 02 2013 at 14:35 |
darkshade wrote:
Michael678 wrote:
darkshade wrote:
OK, no one yell at me, but aside from The Power To Believe, I've never bought a hard copy of any King Crimson albums.
**deflects vegetables**
KC is one of those bands I got into during a time when I didn't buy a lot of albums, either because of lack of funds, or other reasons. By the time I got into buying albums more regularly, I knew the KC discography, and never felt like picking any of the albums up.
Well, these new 40th Anniversary reissues that Steven Wilson did have kept me intrigued, and I'm now looking into getting some of them. But I haven't completely followed the news surrounding their release.
1st question is: Which one is the best one?
2nd question is: Are all 13 studio albums reissued?
3rd question is: Are the reissues significantly different that the older versions? If so, how dramatic are the differences? Will I miss the old versions if I get the new ones?
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this definitely goes along with me and Yes. I only have 2 multi-disc compilation albums, but i want to have some of their studio albums. some of them are pricey indeed, but i havent found any from Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, etc. im interested in the 2003 reissued stuff of all the albums up to and including 90125 can someone lend me a hand on that one |
All of Yes' 70s albums, including Drama, are pretty cheap on Amazon. Tales is a little pricier, but not by much.
I've seen Yes albums in FYE. I'm a little surprised you couldn't find any Yes in Best Buy (as crappy as their CD selection is).
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Yeah, i havent found any Yes CDs in 2 years. (the first one was the first album i got from Target called The Ultimate Yes: 35th Anniversary Collection) i recommend going to Amazon or eBay for Yes stuff
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Posted: October 02 2013 at 14:18 |
Michael678 wrote:
darkshade wrote:
OK, no one yell at me, but aside from The Power To Believe, I've never bought a hard copy of any King Crimson albums.
**deflects vegetables**
KC is one of those bands I got into during a time when I didn't buy a lot of albums, either because of lack of funds, or other reasons. By the time I got into buying albums more regularly, I knew the KC discography, and never felt like picking any of the albums up.
Well, these new 40th Anniversary reissues that Steven Wilson did have kept me intrigued, and I'm now looking into getting some of them. But I haven't completely followed the news surrounding their release.
1st question is: Which one is the best one?
2nd question is: Are all 13 studio albums reissued?
3rd question is: Are the reissues significantly different that the older versions? If so, how dramatic are the differences? Will I miss the old versions if I get the new ones?
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this definitely goes along with me and Yes. I only have 2 multi-disc compilation albums, but i want to have some of their studio albums. some of them are pricey indeed, but i havent found any from Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, etc. im interested in the 2003 reissued stuff of all the albums up to and including 90125 can someone lend me a hand on that one |
All of Yes' 70s albums, including Drama, are pretty cheap on Amazon. Tales is a little pricier, but not by much. I've seen Yes albums in FYE. I'm a little surprised you couldn't find any Yes in Best Buy (as crappy as their CD selection is).
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Posted: October 02 2013 at 14:14 |
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The 40th Anniversary LTIA is pretty sweet. It sounds sooo much better, and I got the one with the DVD, and it has a 20 minute jam with the LTIA lineup. That was some wild improv.
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Posted: September 28 2013 at 13:05 |
darkshade wrote:
OK, no one yell at me, but aside from The Power To Believe, I've never bought a hard copy of any King Crimson albums.
**deflects vegetables**
KC is one of those bands I got into during a time when I didn't buy a lot of albums, either because of lack of funds, or other reasons. By the time I got into buying albums more regularly, I knew the KC discography, and never felt like picking any of the albums up.
Well, these new 40th Anniversary reissues that Steven Wilson did have kept me intrigued, and I'm now looking into getting some of them. But I haven't completely followed the news surrounding their release.
1st question is: Which one is the best one?
2nd question is: Are all 13 studio albums reissued?
3rd question is: Are the reissues significantly different that the older versions? If so, how dramatic are the differences? Will I miss the old versions if I get the new ones?
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this definitely goes along with me and Yes. I only have 2 multi-disc compilation albums, but i want to have some of their studio albums. some of them are pricey indeed, but i havent found any from Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, etc. im interested in the 2003 reissued stuff of all the albums up to and including 90125 can someone lend me a hand on that one
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Posted: September 28 2013 at 12:58 |
darkshade wrote:
^ Is it still on sale?
Sorry, but I never got around to getting any of these KC albums. I got a case of jam band fever not long after this thread was created, and it's only now started fading away, and with the reunion of the new King Crimson, my interest is piqued again.
I think I really want that LTIA 40th Anniversary set.
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Yes I still have it.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted: September 28 2013 at 11:55 |
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DUH!
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Posted: September 28 2013 at 11:04 |
In 2043. 
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Posted: September 28 2013 at 11:01 |
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When are they releasing the 40th Ani of Power to Believe? A remaster of that would be amazing!
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Posted: September 28 2013 at 10:44 |
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^ Is it still on sale?
Sorry, but I never got around to getting any of these KC albums. I got a case of jam band fever not long after this thread was created, and it's only now started fading away, and with the reunion of the new King Crimson, my interest is piqued again.
I think I really want that LTIA 40th Anniversary set.
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Posted: June 22 2013 at 16:53 |
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I've only tried out Starless and Bible Black but I like it. BTW I have my 30th A of Starless for sale now at half.com...
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: June 22 2013 at 16:36 |
darkshade wrote:
Thanks for the info! 2 discs?? Awesome. Do they have the old versions of the albums on there too?They haven't done Starless and Bible Black or Red yet I guess? Or the 80s albums, right?
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Some demos and outtakes are available. It's quite interesting hearing a few different versions of moonchild.
Listen bud. Enjoy. Grab RED and IN THE COURT. Both fantastic digital remastered. Sounds like the music came out today. So fresh and polished...in a good way though that doesn't take away from authenticity. :)
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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Posted: June 22 2013 at 08:34 |
progbethyname wrote:
richardh wrote:
I've actually gone for the 30th anniversary editions as they are much cheaper and sound great to my ears. No intention of upgrading. Its just all too much money for likely to be little extra benefit (imo)However I would also ask a question - are these SW remasters on a par with the Genesis remasters that came out a few years or so ago? Those are exceptional. |
Well I think the Genesis remastered editions are slightly better.
Nick Davis is a better audio engineer than Steven Wilson. Just my opinion. Both are so good though.
I love listening to a trick of the tail remastered in 5.1.
Not much better than that for me.  |
yeah DOAV is amazing now rather than just merely great 
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Posted: June 21 2013 at 12:51 |
richardh wrote:
I've actually gone for the 30th anniversary editions as they are much cheaper and sound great to my ears. No intention of upgrading. Its just all too much money for likely to be little extra benefit (imo)However I would also ask a question - are these SW remasters on a par with the Genesis remasters that came out a few years or so ago? Those are exceptional. |
Well I think the Genesis remastered editions are slightly better.
Nick Davis is a better audio engineer than Steven Wilson. Just my opinion. Both are so good though.
I love listening to a trick of the tail remastered in 5.1.
Not much better than that for me.
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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Posted: June 21 2013 at 12:48 |
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They've done everything up to and including Discipline. |
That is correct. 
Boy. How good it is to listen to Starless in 5.1 ! Awe. Sublime man!
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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