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infandous
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Posted: April 08 2013 at 08:40 |
AlexDOM wrote:
I love When the Water Breaks on LTE 2, but still falls flat compared to TMW |
When the Water Breaks was easily the highlight of their amazing Nearfest performance, and my favorite track by them by a mile.
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darkshade
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Posted: April 08 2013 at 10:26 |
infandous wrote:
I don't much care for 3 minute warning. I much prefer LTE2 over the first one, but both have good tracks on them. For me, I just can't stand Petrucci when he pretends to improvise. I just get the sense it's not really his thing at all, and he's not very good at it (IMO). His random bits of shred just seem out of place and almost never mesh with what the others are doing. The rest of the guys do a decent job, but I prefer the shorter improv's on LTE2, especially because Petrucci overdubbed his parts later, which I think works better for him since he can plan out what he's going to do. Again, no flaming, I'm just stating my opinion on it and I think aside from lack of improv skills, Petrucci is an amazing guitarist.
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Maybe in the studio, but have you listened to any of LTE's live albums? JP knows how to improvise.
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AlexDOM
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Posted: April 08 2013 at 10:32 |
darkshade wrote:
infandous wrote:
I don't much care for 3 minute warning. I much prefer LTE2 over the first one, but both have good tracks on them. For me, I just can't stand Petrucci when he pretends to improvise. I just get the sense it's not really his thing at all, and he's not very good at it (IMO). His random bits of shred just seem out of place and almost never mesh with what the others are doing. The rest of the guys do a decent job, but I prefer the shorter improv's on LTE2, especially because Petrucci overdubbed his parts later, which I think works better for him since he can plan out what he's going to do. Again, no flaming, I'm just stating my opinion on it and I think aside from lack of improv skills, Petrucci is an amazing guitarist.
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Maybe in the studio, but have you listened to any of LTE's live albums? JP knows how to improvise.
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Yeah that one in Live in New York where they open with Acid Rain. The middle section solo that Petrucci lays out is total domination. My mind is blown, sheer insanity. Petrucci Beast Mode!
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infandous
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Posted: April 08 2013 at 11:48 |
darkshade wrote:
infandous wrote:
I don't much care for 3 minute warning. I much prefer LTE2 over the first one, but both have good tracks on them. For me, I just can't stand Petrucci when he pretends to improvise. I just get the sense it's not really his thing at all, and he's not very good at it (IMO). His random bits of shred just seem out of place and almost never mesh with what the others are doing. The rest of the guys do a decent job, but I prefer the shorter improv's on LTE2, especially because Petrucci overdubbed his parts later, which I think works better for him since he can plan out what he's going to do. Again, no flaming, I'm just stating my opinion on it and I think aside from lack of improv skills, Petrucci is an amazing guitarist.
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Maybe in the studio, but have you listened to any of LTE's live albums? JP knows how to improvise.
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Saw them live at Nearfest. I guess if it's a shredding type improv, then yeah, he does fine. If it's mellow or atmospheric in any way, then no, I don't agree (this is true for DT stuff I've seen as well). Again though, I'm not knocking on the guy......he's an incredible guitarist.
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Gerinski
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Posted: April 08 2013 at 12:09 |
Very good track but in general I also prefer LTE 2. I don't have any live recordings, only the 2 studio albums.
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Biff Tannen
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Posted: April 08 2013 at 14:30 |
LTE2 is awesome. but it could have benefited by a reworking of the track order. Having the beast that is When the Water Breaks in the middle of the album makes everything after it seem like overkill, which is a shame cause Chewbacca and Liquid Dreams are both terrific. And ending the album with Hourglass, after all of those longer songs, makes it seem like a last minute throw-on.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: April 09 2013 at 03:56 |
Is there no love for Paradigm Shift off the debut ??? I wish the 2nd album would receive 'vinyl treatment' like the debut.
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Biff Tannen
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Posted: April 09 2013 at 13:18 |
Paradigm Shift is great, but like Acid Rain on the 2nd album, so many of the other songs are so much better, that it gets overlooked at times. Really, every full band song on both LTE albums is nothing short of terrific, and even the songs involving only two or three members are all mostly very good as well.
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