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StarMan2112
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Topic: Latin Prog That Should Be added to the list Posted: March 27 2011 at 19:08 |
LETS ADD LATIN AMERICA TO THE ARCHIVES ONLY SPANISH OR PORTUGUESE Process for adding new bands to Prog Archives. I have been asked to chair a team for adding new bands to Prog Archives. The team that is in place has an eclectic uniqueness to it and will serve this process well. My role as Chair is primarily administrative in making sure the team is given what it needs to make proper evaluations. Anyone on Prog Archives can submit bands for addition. Here is the form of request we are asking for: Rules for band addition submissions to Prog Archives: The following criterion needs to be submitted with each request: BAND INFORMATION
Each Bio, Info, Pictures and Web Address: Send the information an email with the bands name as the title. MP3’s: The songs file name must be = File name: [Band] - [Album] - [track number] - [title].mp3 Zip them up! Email: [email protected] (Do not email anything but band submissions to this address. All other mail will be deleted) Once the emails are sent we have a team who will read the Emails. If the request does not include the full criteria we have asked for the email staff will send an email back to the requestor asking for the missing elements. The requestor will then have two weeks to respond. If they do not then the submission will be deleted with no further communication. Another group of people will download the MP3(s) and place them in a place where the team members can download them and review them. The Team will have one week to discuss and evaluate. The Team members will submit their votes to me via PM. I will copy and paste these in another PM along with my vote and send it M@X. If the vote is yes the band will be added and the requestor notified that they can upload albums. If it is denied then the requestor will be notified and told that they can resubmit for reconsideration in three months. As stated earlier my role is primarily administrative. The only thing I will ever reject is incomplete band requests. Max has instructed us to be inclusive rather than exclusive and there probably will be controversial additions because of this. Just letting you know in advance. Max’s goal is to bring a more and more people to this site. So with that in mind send us your requests. |
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I didn't say i was going to jump, I Jumped - Charly Garcia
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StarMan2112
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Posted: March 27 2011 at 19:12 |
IM NOT A MANAGER NOR A MENBER OF THE PROG ARCHIVES TEAM BUT I AM DOING THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT TOO MANY LATIN PROG BANDS AND SOME DISERVE TO GET IN
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I didn't say i was going to jump, I Jumped - Charly Garcia
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Andy Webb
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Posted: March 27 2011 at 19:18 |
Aren't the respective genre teams responsible for artist evaluation, not a national team? I was unaware there was a shortage of "Latin Prog"
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StarMan2112
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Posted: March 27 2011 at 19:51 |
Seru Giran Seru Giran is one of the first band of latin american prog, they are like the Pink Floyd of South America and the diserve their place on their archives Dubbed "The Beatles criollos" Seru Giran greatest virtue is to have given the fundamental step that should become a massive rock. While not is the first "super-band" is the first to reach both the lower classes and the average-high, "the rockers and cheats" to use the vocabulary of the time. With record sales and spectators their shows, this group also achieved fusion of several musical styles to achieve a particular sound, characteristic of this transition between decades. The popularity of this group is also reflected in the - now Traditional - Hair magazine surveys. Seru Giran won for Best Guitarist, Best Keyboardist, Best Bassist, Best Drummer, Best Composer (Garcia) and Best Live Band in the years 1978, '79, '80 and '81. To this is added Revelation Group 1978, Best Singer (Lebon) '80 and '81, '78 Best Theme ("Seminare") and '81 ("Peperina") and Best Album 1978 ("Seru Giran"). This phenomenon remains unmatched to this day. After the fights in The Birds Making Machine, Charly Garcia took the determination to leave the band and travel to Brazil with David Lebon, its friend from the time of Sui Generis. With the money collected in the Festival of Love (Luna Park 11/11/1977) rented a house for three months in Buzios, north of Rio de Janeiro. Not having money sufficient to pay the tax, carrying all equipment were confiscated at customs. Two months after returning to Buenos Aires Charly to settle contract Oscar Lopez and Billy Bond. One night in a pub where there was Pastoral, Charles was fascinated with the ability to Aznar on bass. He waited for her to finish the show and went to look at the dressing rooms. It was not needed a lot of talk for Peter to accept travel with him to Brazil and join the group in gestation. "... But when I saw peeling low, I dropped my jaw to the knee. I thought, this kid is well, it's almost better than me, "recalls David jokingly. (Clarín, 05/03/1992). With the money he had received in advance of the contract, paid the San Pablo passages of them and Oscar Moro, who had already bespoken to travel. There they meet with David Lebon. "That same first night we played together and decided to build Seru Giran " (Charly Garcia). Despite economic problems, this was a very creative and fruitful, composed more than fifteen topics, which selected the best for editing the first disc. Recording sessions began in the studios of El Dorado St. Paul, culminating in ABC Recording Studios in Los Angeles, United States Together. The first live show Seru Giran took place in the Riachuelo, on board of an anchored ship. The concert - which was only attended by journalists, musicians and friends - was designed to observe the response of critics. That night the group was strong and forceful, it seemed, would open the doors of the mass audience quickly. The live debut of the band came to the city's public two weeks later, on July 28, 1978, in the Luna Park stadium in the Festival Foundation of Human Genetics, along with Nito Mestre, Pastoral, León Gieco and others. The sound was very bad and many people were rolled her the cells that had led recorders to record the moment. Traveled to America to mix the album "Seru Giran" (1978), in which involved the collaboration of Daniel Goldberg, who was in by the musical arrangements and direction of the orchestra of 24 musicians who participated in some songs like "Eiti" Leda "or" Seru Giran ". The harmonic complexity of this project demonstrates that from the beginning, the ambitions that were aimed much higher than the rest of national musicians at the time. The end result was very excited from disk: it sounded like a fusion jazz-rock with Brazilian music. Peter recalls: "... when it appeared that album, the press gave him a hell importance, was created primarily a case ... there was a total paralysis. " Hair Magazine, one of the publications of the time, said: "" Seru Giran "is a album compact, extremely polished in its production, despite the which sounds less armed Birds making machine. Seru Giran (...) a good debut album. A music that shines through the new horizons Garcia and his new companions. "(Hair N ° 104). Back toward the end of '78 Stadium officially premiered Works (Nov. 3) with orchestra (strings and wind section) and CCTV. In the back of the stage, a giant screen addressing the musicians on stage. David, Peter and Oscar came dressed all in white, while Charly chose a black mesh bag and sneakers. The beginning of the recital, with the full orchestra playing the powerful introducing "Serú Girán ", presaged an unforgettable night. It was not. When they touched the track "Disco Shock," a satire of disco music, so fashionable in the This time, people thought it was serious and after a chorus of whistles, Garcia began to ask the "Blues release," the theme he had composed on the occasion of the farewell of Sui Generis. The public was taken aback and the rest of the concert went to the general indifference. People did not understand the message or not Serú was able to express it. The media criticism against the band raged. The daily La Opinion, for example, reported that they were the worst he had in Argentina and claimed that they had "gay voice." These statements were the culmination of a "smear campaign" that had taken place against Garcia, while the band was rehearsing in Brazil. The forefront of this campaign was the headline: "Charly Garcia, or idol" what? ". For the second album, "The Fat of the Capital" (1979), Serú chose a much more forceful. Eliminated the orchestra, had not been fully accepted by the public, and wrote themes simple and direct. Criticism of Hair magazine this album was quite positive, "" The Fat ... "is an album that will have admirers and detractors equally unconditional. On the one hand, are those who will welcome a Garcia left the complex and returns to the subject of criticism social as well developed above. And on the other hand, there who condemn the simplicity and lack of progress. Nevertheless, it is one of the most accomplished of the year. "(Hair No 122). Separation rumors were discredited with the presentation of long-play, over six performances at the Auditorio Buenos Aires, after touring the cities of Cordoba, San Luis and Mendoza. After Start frustrating experience, preferred not to expose too much and chose a small place. The show began in total darkness while listening to the playback Choir introduction to "The Fat ...". Next, it all the lights lit and the band burst on stage. "Friday 3 AM "," Andalusian Dog "and" survivors "were the most feted by the public. There was also room for nostalgia: "Seminare" and "Eiti" Leda "won the recognition of people during the encore. By dint of recitals and tenacity, managed to reverse Serú the views of critics and the public. There he began to take shape the mass phenomenon that still persists. The next album would be called Seru Giran "Bicycle" (1980). Years later recall the third album Seru Giran as the best group, even to compare with "Abbey Road", the transformer twelfth LP of the Beatles. But then, means "specialty" is not attributed to such material importance. For example, Hair said: "... the third album Serú Girán probably travel the road to success that had the above, but it is difficult for "Bicycle" is fully power of this band. Seru Giran (...) peaked their possibilities on stage, but has yet to go far way in the studies. " (Hair No 139). The album "Bicycle" - a name that Charly had initially proposed for the group, but was rejected by the rest - was presented to Works 6 and 7 June 1980. The scenario could see wheels bicycle, rabbits and flowers, something that caught the attention of the public and the press, being the first group that had some type of concern for staging. The fact was because there was Seru Giran delegated responsibility to Renata scenic Schussheim, an old Charly's friend. From "Bike", began with Seru Giran great shows. A month later, in August 1980, were presented at the Monterrey Jazz Festival, in Rio de Janeiro. Traditionally, representatives Argentine in this festival were more related to jazz or tango progressive rock Serú proposing. That year the concert was divided into two parts. In the first, had Serú, guitarist Pat Metheny and George Duke. The success of the Argentines in the function was such that the organizers were offered to play again the second - the main - with John McLaughlin, Hermeto Pascoal, Edgberto Gismonti and Weather Report. "When McLaughlin was playing, people skating and threw paper airplanes. I want to die! If McLaughlin you did that, we hatched us, "recalls Garcia. No However, this prediction was completely wrong. The main because of the favorable public response lay in the range of nuances in the songs performed by them and also some they had a strong rhythm that invites dancing. This festival marked two very important facts for the life of the group. On the one hand, they became known and left a very good impression Cariocas, a fact highlighted by the media including Argentina (Clarín, 08/28/1980). On the other, that's where he met Pat Metheny with Pedro Aznar the beginning of the end. Before the end of the year, two other milestones in the history of Rock National players would like this group. The first were the two concerts (12 and 13 September) in which they played next to Spinetta Jade. It is a historical fact that two groups of such magnitude were simultaneously on stage. When Luis Alberto Spinetta appeared and began with the issue of Sui Generis "Once I start to be alone," people understand that no faced with a joint recital. Then the darkness came Charly with the theme "What do you see the sky." Under a climate ecstatic Lebón performed "Music of the soul" and then came everyone else: Aznar Moro, on the one hand, Spinetta, Pomo, and Rapoport Satragni and Del Barrio by the other. Together they performed tracks from the group led by Hardy and the crowd applauded wildly. The concert closed with the two groups on the stage performing "The beggar on the platform" and "Chrysalis." Spinetta Jade's performance was widely praised, despite its difficult style. It was evident Spinetta effort to achieve greater simplicity his music, so the public could understand his message works. Seru Girán, however, was cheered from the start, revealing the awesome "feeling that I had with people. The other important milestone took place at La Rural. On December 30, 60,000 people, according to figures from the Federal Police, gathered to listen to the band number one: "... the ring was the Rural crowded. (...) A compact tail reaching to the Pacific station. Although the police did not find any key in the lyrics of "Alice in Wonderland Country ", repeated ad nauseam, also retained a handful of boys. The producers finally negotiated and that December 30 does not was arrested "(Ramos / Lejbowicz, p.23). Garcia said: "... with this matter to go to concerts and take you cane, people to eventually realizes that the only thing that happens is you go to sleep in a station, but no one can for every wave. " (Humor, 1981). In 1981 de facto President Roberto Viola aims to bring musicians. Wisely, he used the strong descent of the latter on youth, to show the country his "sorrow" for the problems suffered by young people. The rockers were amazed no. Spinetta recalls an anecdote about it: "I would I beat a couple of things and also I suggested they build the largest observatory in the world ... a delirium, but what will he say? "(Berti, pág.60). On the issue "Meeting with the devil," quipped David Lebon on this meeting: "I never meet the boss in his office in such good humor / asking me to say what I think / what is that I think of this situation. " "Peperina" (1981), the fourth album Seru Giran, who had begun to record in April, was released later that year. History Peppermint is known: "I want to tell a good story / of a girl who lived euphoria / to be part of rock / tea making peppermint. " The issue is about a girl who wrote notes Rock en Córdoba. Whenever Serú played in that city, she called presenting an "an embarrassment." Needless to say that, despite its defenestrantes reviews, filled stadiums. It is said that when heard 'their' issue for the first time, he said that was still Seru Giran like it, but that Garcia was "a good sociologist" (?). With respect to the disk, Charly says is a significant advancement in As for recording quality. However, no hair magazine was very pleased with this work "does not impress as a Peperina compact album. In it there are songs that clearly differ from level, literary and musical. (...) They are all familiar brands Serú music: melancholy songs, pleasing melodies startled by a blazing riff and the same failures of production that the group draws from their first album (...) The album will not disappoint the fans, but has no homogeneity of "The Fat ..." and raises the question of the future (...) Then came the difficult time at the top and what you can do state or stagger them. " (Hair N ° 154). By contrast, Gloria Guerrero, at number 63 on Comedy, said: "The album, from what little I could hear him in a cassettito, the spent, and this would not surprise me. " In the next number, complete: '... Probably, "Peperina" not a' huge 'step forward after his previous job. It seems, by dint of being sincere, kind as an "album complementary" "Bicycle", but more loose and spontaneous. " On 4, 5 and 6 September, the album was presented in the stadium Works. In honor of Sgt Pepper's by The Beatles, went on Seru Giran scene with a simple show. This simplicity allowed the combination music-image would smoothly. In principle, when Charles and David composed the songs of this album, Garcia thought it was over a film of a long-play. So he got the idea to put in the recital a giant screen showing videos recorded and the group especially in shadow play, accompanying these images. What prevented the realization of this idea was the roof too low the stadium: the screen would clog much of the scenario and they would be almost completely hidden. Finally, the idea was discarded. To see the year, played 25, 26 and 27 December in the theater Colosseum, in the Federal Capital. For these shows, Charly hired the Bay Biscuits, a theater-rock group composed of Vivi Tellas, Mayco Castro Volpe, Lisa Wakoluk, Diana Nylon and Faithfull Marianne (the latter would be stable after the band's vocalist Charly). The number was sandwiched in the concert and were greeted with whistles and insults of all kinds. In January '81 Aznar is convened by the American guitarist Pat Metheny to join his band. They agreed to meet in the United, and that Peter would travel next year to study at Berklee College. This event would mark the end of the band. Criticism of previous albums agreed on one thing: a Serú in studies lacked the strength and energy I had in vivo. Was not until the very end of this grouping (at least the time the dissolution was final) to reach a record this material. "When Peter told me he was going, I felt awful - recalls Charlie - because we made a group that sounded great (...) We got a lot of communication with people (...) In addition, we were opening the gates of Europe and without it we will not take advantage. On the other hand, Peter is a musician who is well above the level of the which is now Argentina (1982) and it was nice to play with a guy like that. But I was also very well because Peter has other perspectives of life and other musical tastes. He wants to be as a person, and I think barbaric. " (Hair N ° 160). When Aznar told him the group was leaving, they decided to take a time for reflection. It was thus that Charles went to Brazil to work in his first solo album, David took a holiday in Punta del This and Oscar stayed in Buenos Aires. The following month (February 1982), the four musicians got together for a tour of the Atlantic Coast: San Bernardo, Villa Gessell, Necochea, Pinamar, Miramar, Santa Teresita and, obviously, Mar del Plata were the sites chosen by the band. The final day of the group was getting closer. But the group's history deserved a gold brooch was necessary a Seru Giran goodbye. Should be a spectacular concert was organized to 6 and 7 March at Obras Sanitarias, Cathedral Rock. In this opportunity, the group "... and never sounded like the work of the musicians on scenario spared no fervor, despite being recorded live. Charly, David, Peter and Oscar gave a solid performance, vibrant and emotional, and which showed a puff rocker in the style of group. Pedro Aznar was fired by a standing ovation because, although his musical tastes were far from the rest of the group and the public generally gave Serú (...) a very particular and distinctive sound. " (Legends No. 7). "Do not cry for me Argentina" (1982) ended up being a compilation vivo of the major successes of the band, with the exception of item same name and "Popotitos" a cover of the classic theme. In this regard, Gloria Guerrero says, "... there were three reasons (for wait for this LP). The first, preserving the last testimony to the work Pedro Aznar. The second, assisting, at last, the sound of Seru Giran in vivo. The third, to have on hand the new songs: "Do not cry for me" "Grief in My Heart" (...) As the last work of Seru Giran-quartet is all the historical value and full value that gives the undisputed quality group. " (Humor N º 84). "Do not cry ..." is a hot topic, which marks a kind of summary time, a kind of balance - do not forget that it was composed in 1982, the beginning of the Falklands War, the fall of the military junta and subsequent advent of democracy - in a tone of protest and criticism at a time, a style that would give both revenue Garcia in subsequent years. While at first it was considering the possibility of continuing as trio (from Lebón to the dual role of guitarist and bassist), and in any case, look for a replacement for live performances, the lack of motivation was evident and the project was dropped. Lebon working on his solo project "The time is fast" and Garcia was already embarked on the double album "Going to bed at the living / Pubis angelic. " On May 16, 1982, Serú part of the Festival de la Solidaridad American, held before 60,000 people in the hockey field Works to collect items for children suffering Argentines in the Falklands and to thank those countries that had provided support and had expressed solidarity with Argentina. Broadcast live on radio and television, showed the most important musicians of the moment: the remained the now dissolved Seru Giran, Leon Gieco, Spinetta Jade, Raúl Porchetto, Nito Mestre, and many more. From mid-1991 began to handle the possibility of returning Seru. "This is more than a memory. - García reflected by that time - long ago we are working to keep her greatness for the guy who once saw Seru Giran see him again and not disappointed and the guys who have not seen a flash. " That's exactly what happened. "Seru '92" is without a doubt, the most floppy disks of all of the band. Much more pop, sometimes sin of "light", lacking the characteristic commitment. However, it was a commercial success, with sales exceeding the 200,000 multitudinous copies and shows in Rosario, Cordoba and two in the Capital Federal, the latter to more than 160,000 people, which were published in two new LPs. While they did not want to turn your Serú back in business - and less for others - this is not entirely the scope of their plans. "Let us end once and the division between spirit and matter. It's all the same: we feel immense pleasure by touch and has a price most people do not hesitate to pay. A does not exclude the other "(Pedro Aznar to Clarín, 03/05/1992). "If it was for Silver? Of course it was for silver ... among other things. We will not play River for nothing. Obviously you have to defend you and once you up there, something you have to do. And I think we did pretty well. The Silver is an element, if you do not have it, you can not do the show. " (Garcia Clarín, 01/21/1993). He was also floating the unknown as to whether the return would be for those shows or if you would proceed with the project abruptly interrupted 1982. Before leaving the arena, no one dared to confirm any the two, perhaps because even they know it. During the encore of the second and last show of the band in Buenos Aires, burst that fight latent reigned since so long ago between Garcia, strong personality and natural leader of the group, David Lebon, fed the desire for ownership of the former. It took Pedro mediation Aznar for the guitarist climbed back on stage and so all together, definitely fired presentations vivo. In short, ended up being a moment in which all (those inside and outsiders) made that the time had not elapsed. Of that way, and only then, the return of Seru Giran was positive. The Fireworks burst that closed the show ended wake up this melancholy assumption, to bury definitively the band. In 1995 he published a collection, "Gold", taking advantage of the launch of the movie "Peperina" directed by Raul de la Torre and starring Andrea del Boca in the role of Patricia Perea (true Peperina). This documentary film contains footage of the return of 1992. Oscar Moro died in July 2006, the victim of a hemorrhage stomach. They Are From Argentina They Play Prog-Rock Discography --------------------------Seru Giran, Year 1978, Line Up: Charly Garcia : Piano And Vocal , David Lebon: Guitar And Vocal, Oscar Moro: Drums and Percusion, Pedro Aznar: Base And Vocals ---------------------------La Grasa De Las Capitales, Year 1979, Line Up: Charly Garcia : Piano And Vocal , David Lebon: Guitar And Vocal, Oscar Moro: Drums and Percusion, Pedro Aznar: Base And Vocals ---------------------------Bicicleta, Year 1980 Line Up: Charly Garcia : Piano And Vocal , David Lebon: Guitar And Vocal, Oscar Moro: Drums and Percusion, Pedro Aznar: Base And Vocals ---------------------------Peperina, Year 1981 Line Up: Charly Garcia : Piano And Vocal , David Lebon: Guitar And Vocal, Oscar Moro: Drums and Percusion, Pedro Aznar: Base And Vocals ---------------------------No Llores por mi, Argentina (live), Year 1982 Line Up: Charly Garcia : Piano And Vocal , David Lebon: Guitar And Vocal, Oscar Moro: Drums and Percusion, Pedro Aznar: Base And Vocals ---------------------------Seru 92', Year 1992 Line Up: Charly Garcia : Piano And Vocal , David Lebon: Guitar And Vocal, Oscar Moro: Drums and Percusion, Pedro Aznar: Base And Vocals 5 Songs |
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Atkingani
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Posted: March 27 2011 at 19:55 |
Serú Giran is here since at least 2007:
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Atkingani
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Posted: March 27 2011 at 20:05 |
There's no specific Latin Prog in PA, if so we should include Italy, France and part of Canada, among others.
Anyway, I understand you are referring to "Latin America" and in this case bands from that part of the world are distributed throughout the several PA sub-genres. Also the main Latin American acts are included in PA spanning from late 60s until present. If there's any band you believe is forgotten, please let us know, taking care to start one specific thread for each band suggested. Use this sub-forum for the suggestion. Thanks/Gracias/Obrigado.
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StarMan2112
Forum Newbie Joined: March 23 2011 Location: Florida Status: Offline Points: 28 |
Posted: March 27 2011 at 20:15 |
sorry, i feel stupid
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I didn't say i was going to jump, I Jumped - Charly Garcia
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: March 28 2011 at 00:45 |
Please open sepparate threads for each band you want to suggest, and all the suggestions will be evaluated (regardless of where the bands come from).
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Ivan_Melgar_M
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19535 |
Posted: March 28 2011 at 11:59 |
Not too many Latin bands?
We also have:
Iván
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: March 29 2011 at 08:22 |
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