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    Posted: May 09 2009 at 07:24
Next month I'll probably buy  my sound system, but I am clueless about which one I should buy. Any suggestions?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2009 at 10:55
Buy seperates and by the most expensive you can afford. Spend more on speakers than the CD player, spend more on the CD player than the Amplifier. Makes are pretty much immaterial unless you are looking at spending $500 on each unit, but for a starter set-up I'd go for NAD, Cambridge Audio or Marantz who make good quality at a reasonable price, (in fact I'd recommend NAD amps - I've owned one since the early 80s and it has outlived several higher priced units).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2009 at 12:03
This is my suggestion to you:

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-X-540-Speaker-System-Black/dp/B000JJM8XE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1260698321&sr=1-1

I'm serious ... hook it up to your computer, maybe spend some money on a Creative X-Fi soundcard too. I personally guarantee you that the result will blow you away. Now, I'm fully aware that Audiophiles will be rolling on the floor laughing when they read this. Unfortunately I can't demonstrate to you how it sounds over the internet, so you'll have to make your own decision. But have a look what 500+ customers have to say about it:

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-THX-Certified-505-Watt-Digital-Surround/dp/B0002WPSBC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1241888553&sr=8-1

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2009 at 03:02
I'm not laughing- I do mine on the pc through a set of Klipsch 2.1's. I have the same logitech system on the tv for 5.1 (the klipsch sound better for audio). When I really want the feel of being there, I take it out to the shed and put it through a projector (concerts) and use my Behringer 2500 watt PA to blow me away.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2009 at 04:04
^Despite owning several Behringer products, I would stay away from their speakers and power amps if possible.
It's true that you don't get good speakers and a good power amp if you aren't prepared to spend a decent.
Pretty much every I know that uses the Behringer sound reinforcement speakers has compared them to higher end stuff and the limitations are revealed quite quickly.
Frequency drop offs and humps throughout the frequency spectrum tend to only be worse with lower end equipment and Behringer is no exception.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2009 at 05:28
Well Petrov- you get what you pay. But also remember you don't necessarily get the quality you deserve when paying for high end brand names. I have found the Behringer system to be amazing for it's price and have not found it lacking in any band situation- we only play small bars and clubs. Price vs quality has won me over to behringer and I now use their equipment exclusively.

But this is digressing-  the thread is about hifi systems, not band PA's. I only mentioned the behringer because it is what I use for sound when projecting concerts up onto 20' of wall space. However, as a hifi sound system using the roland sonic cell as a pc sound card outputting to the PA system, which includes Behringer 32 band graphic, 10 channel mixer, 2500watt power amp and speakers, it is sheer raw power bliss and is not hard to imagine that you are actually at the concert, because it sounds 'live'.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2009 at 11:04
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

(in fact I'd recommend NAD amps - I've owned one since the early 80s and it has outlived several higher priced units).
 
I adore my NAD 700BEE amp and CD player - paired with PSB speakers it is a fantastic setup. I purchased it 3 years ago and it's worked flawlessly......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2009 at 11:19
Will you use your system for playback? recording? mixing? all of them?
How much are you willing to spend?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2009 at 11:23
It's also really important to listen to your music int he store to make sure it's what you want - any audio store worth it's salt shoudl allow you to spend some time listening to CDs you have brought in to get the best fit. I spent an hour trying out different things when I was there, as typically in the store they only really pumped in classical radio - I like classical don't get my wrong, but at the same time I spend more time listening to Black Sabbath than Bethoven - so when I went to shop around I brought Volume 4 with me to test out - I couldn't be happier with my purchase in the end.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2009 at 11:54
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Next month I'll probably buy  my sound system, but I am clueless about which one I should buy. Any suggestions?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2009 at 16:48
Originally posted by mono mono wrote:

Will you use your system for playback? recording? mixing? all of them?
How much are you willing to spend?
The OT was in May - if he was intending to buy it the following month - I assume he's already done it.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2009 at 01:02
I'd like to know what he eventually ended up with ... 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2009 at 10:10
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by mono mono wrote:

Will you use your system for playback? recording? mixing? all of them?
How much are you willing to spend?
The OT was in May - if he was intending to buy it the following month - I assume he's already done it.Wink


Hehe, didn't notice that... Maybe he hasn't bought anything and has more money to put in a sound system now? Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2009 at 23:26
I was told one way to check for quality when buying sound components was to "feel" the dials and see if they are well made, not lightwieght and plastic

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2009 at 00:29
From what I've heard, sound system preference can be different for each person.  All depends on what you want it to sound like and all.  Not sure if that's true or not though, I've not really experienced many different setups. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2009 at 00:34
Are speakers really higher sound quality than headphones? How can an expensive CD player exist, doesn't it just read things correctly or not? I understand vinyl, but CDs are lasers! Will CCVP ever respond to this thread?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2009 at 11:06
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Are speakers really higher sound quality than headphones? How can an expensive CD player exist, doesn't it just read things correctly or not? I understand vinyl, but CDs are lasers! Will CCVP ever respond to this thread?
 


Speakers are different from headphones and are not comparable in my opinion (to a certain extent of course).There are as much quality speakers as there are quality headphones.

The main difference is acoustic: headphones deliver strictly one channel/signal per ear, whereas with speakers, you get on each ear, a global signal composed of a mix of left and right.
The audio image is outside your head with speakers, whereas with headphones, it's inside (unless some headphone spatialization effect is applied...). We get used to this quite fast, so it doesn't bother us...

Speakers are more recommended for mixing in principle (quality being ruled out of the equation), simply because they are more common than headphones, although mixes are often checked on headphones.
Headphones are practical for recording and monitoring, because (if quality is good enough) you can distinguish more detail with them. They are also practical sometimes for reverbs and EQs.

Difference is also noticeable when you see that there are many (if not most) manufacturers that produce either speakers or headphones, but rarely both.
Beyerdynamics and Sennheiser for example, don't make "speakers" (monitors of stereo systems) because those are a different task and a different technology.

For CD players, check this thread: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=63013


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2010 at 16:13
Buy second hand except for the CD player..
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