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Poll Question: Is it right to download music for free without the artist's consent?
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Points: 2078 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2009 at 20:47
Do the laws differ for bootlegs/unofficial live albums?

I'm guessing the same applies with live as standard records.But I wouldn't have a problem at all with downloading live tracks that weren't up for official release.



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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2009 at 02:23
No difference, they are still illegal. There have of course been examples of them being legitimised, such as the Bootleg boxes released by ELP and Tangerine Dream.
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Points: 6419 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2009 at 16:59
I always try to buy what I download and like. Not always immediately afterwards because that isn't always possible, but sooner or later. Some stuff is really hard to find and some I might never find at all, but I try. I spend a lot of money (a lot more than I can afford, really) on records every month. I feel I'm morally obliged to.
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Points: 10964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2009 at 18:40
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

No difference, they are still illegal. There have of course been examples of them being legitimised, such as the Bootleg boxes released by ELP and Tangerine Dream.


a place like bt tree lets you download live shows from a large number of bands, and i believe they only have bands/artists that are ok with people downloading their shows, especially jam bands
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Points: 4981 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2009 at 18:49
Well yes, if you get permission from the band, it's legal.

That goes for studio albums, too, though.  Bootlegs aren't a special category.
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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2009 at 19:00
Pnoom some admins hidden your caricature post
 
What i wonder is the amount of viewings in youtube LOL




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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2009 at 19:06
Originally posted by Alberto Muñoz Alberto Muñoz wrote:

Pnoom some admins hidden your caricature post
None of Aaron's posts have been hidden in this thread Confused (have they? I can't "see" any)
What?
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Points: 4981 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2009 at 19:19
Nah, I deleted the post because I realized that it contained a term PA probably wouldn't like.
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C`mon what was it. We`re men. We can take it.
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Points: 4981 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2009 at 11:09
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

C`mon what was it. We`re men. We can take it.


The word was "fag" and my experience with this site is that if it's controversial, it's best not to post it.  I'm on a tight enough rope as is.

If you really want to see it: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/WeezatonE/1235433801881.gif
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Points: 6898 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2009 at 12:44
I walk a thin line myself sometimes but I like living on the edge. Explosions and suprises.My avatar says it all.


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I just found a very interesting blogpost of someone who sees a future for legal downloading in local recordstores.

http://uk.music-jobs.com/blog/index.php/music-industry-career-advice/saving-the-record-store/

"There is hope. In order for these traditional retail stores to keep afloat, they must adapt to the new music 2.0 world and attract customers by a variety of means. They must expand their revenue sources in order to survive. I'm sure that some if this will involve mp3s, and developing a working strategy for in-store downloading."

"Rather than trying to sell a thousand megastar albums, selling 25 albums of 40 different local acts will create the same income and possible evolve more loyal, longer term custom."

"Anything they can do to think outside the box and expand their store into a community once again is the way that the physical retailers can fight back and survive. I, for one, would hate to see the last remaining few disappear from our streets, and honestly think that by becoming more of a community / lifestyle / hang out joint, and turn the shop itself into a trusted, authentic and knowledgeable brand, then they can regain not just one-off customers, but regular long-tail fans."



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Points: 98 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2009 at 12:51
I always download music if I want to check out a band, and if I like it I end up buying their albums. If it wasn't for downloading, most of the bands I love now I wouldn't have even heard them.
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Points: 572 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2009 at 15:13
Originally posted by Eraserhead Eraserhead wrote:

I always download music if I want to check out a band, and if I like it I end up buying their albums. If it wasn't for downloading, most of the bands I love now I wouldn't have even heard them.


Pretty much the exact same thing I said. They wouldn't have profited from us buying tickets to their shows either.
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