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TheDrake
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Posted: February 14 2009 at 04:02 |
Borris wrote:
Sweden produces a lot of good progressive rock.
Can some one give me some explanation as to why?
How is progressive rock looked on in Sweden? Is it considered as uncool as it is in many other parts of the world?
Are there large audiences for Progressive rock in Sweden?
An outline of the history and origins of Progressive Rock in Sweden, would be great.
I'd be particularly keen to hear views from Swedish posters.
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There are not many people in Sweden listening to bands such as Anekdoten, Anglagard, Flower Kings. They are not known to the wider audience, at all.
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Borris
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Posted: February 14 2009 at 04:36 |
TheDrake wrote:
There are not many people in Sweden listening to bands such as Anekdoten, Anglagard, Flower Kings. They are not known to the wider audience, at all.
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Thank you very much for your comment. I find it very interesting to hear what is happening in Sweden. It seems like a lot of Progressive music comes from Sweden and yet there is no great awareness or appreciation of it within Sweden.
I'm amazed by it, I don't actually have lots of Swedish Prog but my collection is growing and I can see that it will grow more and more. I got Anglagard and i thought they were good, but a one off band. I heard about the Flower Kings, Kaipa and Beardfish and I got their CDs. They grew on me slowly but grow they did, the Kaipa CD made the biggest impact. Then I learnt that Par Lindh & Bo Hansson that I already had are Swedish, then I listened to Moon Safari, Anekdoten & Ritual on MySpace and ordered some of their music & I was just amazed by the quality of this music and delighted that new good progressive Rock was being made and flowing in such quantities out of Sweden. I became very curious.
It sounds to me as though the reason is to do with the quality and support given to musical education, a folk tradition.
It seems also as though Progressive Rock is a very individualistic thing, it isn't made because your peers will think you're cool and you'll make lots of money. When i was reading up on Wikipedia about Sweden I learnt that it ranks first in the world in the Economist's democratic Index. And I wondered if that translated into an individual aptitude to self expression, which i'd like to think was an essential characteristic of Prog.
Well, something must be happening right, and i am certainly grateful for it.
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angelmk
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Posted: February 14 2009 at 06:51 |
TheDrake wrote:
Borris wrote:
Sweden produces a lot of good progressive rock.
Can some one give me some explanation as to why?
How is progressive rock looked on in Sweden? Is it considered as uncool as it is in many other parts of the world?
Are there large audiences for Progressive rock in Sweden?
An outline of the history and origins of Progressive Rock in Sweden, would be great.
I'd be particularly keen to hear views from Swedish posters.
Thanks in advance. |
There are not many people in Sweden listening to bands such as Anekdoten, Anglagard, Flower Kings. They are not known to the wider audience, at all.
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i'am disapointed , not many listeners of that great bands? such a shame, i love those sweedish bands, Anekdoten , Anglagard, Flower kings are awesome , Bo Hanson, kaipa, what about interest in post rock bands, are sweeds aware for this gems : Pg.lost,Scraps of tapes, september malevolence Sickoakes,. And about stuf like Cult of luna ,Darkwater,Evergrey ,Pain of salvation, ? i love sweedish prog scene, it's a pitty i am Macedonia, damn
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Repner
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Posted: February 14 2009 at 07:47 |
zappaholic wrote:
That must be why so many metal bands come from Sweden too.....
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If you listen to that song and watch your avatar at the same time...
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Fleetway
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Posted: February 14 2009 at 18:04 |
I have a different theory.
I say the reason why there are so many prog artists and bands in sweden is because there are so few listening to it.
An artist hear some prog and falls in love, he finds none to talk about it with, and when he recomends it to people they say it sucks.
So he starts talking about it with his instruments instead.
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Borris
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Posted: February 14 2009 at 18:33 |
Fleetway wrote:
I have a different theory.
I say the reason why there are so many prog artists and bands in sweden is because there are so few listening to it.
An artist hear some prog and falls in love, he finds none to talk about it with, and when he recomends it to people they say it sucks.
So he starts talking about it with his instruments instead. |
A pleasant theory, but then most countries would be producing as much Prog as Sweden does.
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Borris
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Posted: February 16 2009 at 03:28 |
I have another theory, maybe given that music is supported in Sweden and the musicians get good musical educations and yet there is no great audience for it then if you're driven to entertain yourself with your own music then what do you do? You make Prog music,
Isn't it regarded as the w**ky music people make for their own amusement without a thought for their audience?
Well, you stay inside in cold Sweden making complex Prog to keep yourself entertained. You record some CDs and nutters like us are delighted with it and regard it as rare and precious pearls, formed around the grit of neglect.
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Posted: February 17 2009 at 12:51 |
cause its really cold up there and people need to play more notes-per-minute to keep warm
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CPicard
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Posted: February 17 2009 at 13:49 |
microphone wrote:
cause its really cold up there and people need to play more notes-per-minute to keep warm
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Your theory would be right only if we were talking about hardcore punk and speed metal. I'm not sure Anekdoten, Anglagard or White Willow play a lot of NPM.
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Eastvillage
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Posted: February 17 2009 at 16:22 |
I am from sweden and I find it very sad that nobody listens to prog rock here. :(
Sure, many people know bands like Pink Floyd, but they will call it nothing more than just rock music. The new swedish prog bands arent known at all, and if u try to talk about prog rock you will be considered as some extremely nerdy outsider (as anywhere else I guess?).
In fact, if u ask the ordinary swede if he likes prog, he will think of "the swedish prog movement", whitch hasnt anything to do with the real prog at all. It was lika a "light edition" of progg that was common in sweden in the seventies, much influenced by folk music.
If I talk about prog rock with my dad for example, he always acts like the name of prog rock is some new name for symphonic rock that collectors are using, defining the swedish prog as the real prog.
And why are there so many progresive bands from sweden then? Sweden is a very calm country with very limited criminallity and small gaps between the people compared to many other countries, whitch means many people have simalary tast in music, films and culture. The music taste is, as some people has said before, very radio friendly and I guess that makes people who cant stand it to begin playing metal, prog or other somewhat extreme genres.
We are also very influened by american and brittish culture compared to many other countries, and we have a lot of moody nature, dark winters, long light summers and so on, so I guess the romantic kind of man has something to take his inspiration from.
Not sure this is all the things that affects this phenomenon, but I think they play a great role, however
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Borris
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Posted: February 18 2009 at 02:52 |
Eastvillage wrote:
I am from sweden and I find it very sad that nobody listens to prog rock here. :(...
And why are there so many progresive bands from sweden then? Sweden is a very calm country with very limited criminallity and small gaps between the people compared to many other countries, whitch means many people have simalary tast in music, films and culture. The music taste is, as some people has said before, very radio friendly and I guess that makes people who cant stand it to begin playing metal, prog or other somewhat extreme genres.
We are also very influened by american and brittish culture compared to many other countries, and we have a lot of moody nature, dark winters, long light summers and so on, so I guess the romantic kind of man has something to take his inspiration from.
Not sure this is all the things that affects this phenomenon, but I think they play a great role, however |
Good post, it is really good to get an insiders view.
I just got 2 cds of Swedish Prog today; Ritual's "Hemulic Voluntary Band" & Anekdoten's "A time of Day". On first spin they sound very good, it is so great to be getting really good new Progressive Rock. I am really looking forward to having some deep meditative listening experiences with them.
The Giant Prog has risen from the dead despite the critics assuring us it was gone for good.
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verslibre
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 11:08 |
angelmk wrote:
TheDrake wrote:
There are not many people in Sweden listening to bands such as Anekdoten, Anglagard, Flower Kings. They are not known to the wider audience, at all. |
i'am disapointed , not many listeners of that great bands? such a shame, i love those sweedish bands, Anekdoten , Anglagard, Flower kings are awesome , Bo Hanson, kaipa, what about interest in post rock bands, are sweeds aware for this gems : Pg.lost,Scraps of tapes, september malevolence Sickoakes,. And about stuf like Cult of luna ,Darkwater,Evergrey ,Pain of salvation, ? i love sweedish prog scene, it's a pitty i am Macedonia, damn |
Well, the USA probably has the worst ratio of listeners and nonlisteners of "prog" when you come to think about it. Too many sheeple over here...
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