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Alberto Muñoz View Drop Down
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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2009 at 18:56
Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Ok.... firstly I was to apologise to Raff for putting her in the position of writing in this thread, when back in November, she didn't actually take the decision regarding PR, so please don't fire your bullets at her...Stern Smile
 
The decision over PR was NOT taken lightly, and they were discussed by the then 3 members of the HP genre team at length, before being rejected in a straight 3-0 vote.  The principle reason was that while we all enjoyed the music, we really felt it had too much of an experimental blues feel to it, and was neither guitar oriented enough for HP or progressive enough for PA, for us to pursue further, by recommending to another genre team.
 
While we appreciate and applaud your enthusiasm for the development of PA through band submissions, I would ask you to be a little more respectful toward those who have to make these decisions.  They are often not easy, but we attempt to do our best for the site.
 
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Fandango: I'm  always be respectful for all the members of PA, i haven't use bad  or offensive words or something like that as you can see how is my behaviour here, since i decided to participate in the PA forums.
 
Of course i appreciate the work that you do for PA, thank you, but i think in your place I try to justify with contundent arguments the addition or rejection of a band, there are plenty of write material that you can use.
 
Well as a humble "senior member" , my voice and critic is through these forums.
 
i think that if you want to build a Methodology of how can you evaluate a band i glady help you.


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Points: 11985 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2009 at 18:57
And don't forget, Kiss once released a concept album and Abba had keyboards and complex arrangements.

Whaddya waiting for? Get suggestin...

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Points: 65766 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2009 at 19:12
the rejection of Pescado Rabioso was made under my watch, I gladly and gleefully take full responsibility for it, and would welcome any lame-brained attacks on my judgment...  c'mon, I'm begging

 
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Points: 19557 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2009 at 19:18
Originally posted by Alberto Muñoz Alberto Muñoz wrote:


http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52925

 
 
Please Alberto, I wrote simpler Resolutions to accuse a criminal when I was working in the District Attorneys office. LOL
 
This is ART, not a trial.
 
The only things you need to decide if a band is added are:
 
  1. Experience
  2. Some knowledge
  3. Patience
  4. But most important INSTINCT

Alberto, I checked the link you provided:

Originally posted by Alberto Muñoz Alberto Muñoz wrote:

XXXX team of PA of the veredict of add or reject x band we:
 
                                                                           C O N S I D E R
 
In x month of the year 2008 zafreth, a senior member of PA suggest  x band, he provide this with samples of music and a rudimentary biography to be added to PA, after he post this in the  right thread, after that, a member of the team that evaluate the x band, answer in x month of 2008, that they take the x group and will evaluate in a time that no exceed four months.
 
Then the x team of PA evaluate the band and : Here the team can put the developemnt of the discussion in a general manner.
 
Then comes the arguments of pros and cons (specific) well written, well sustained and if a member want to do a particular vote.
 
                                                                            R E S O L U T I O N
X o Y team, after we read and listen to samples of music of  X band we decided the (adition) (rejection) of the aforemetion band in the following:
 
1.- We the x team after reading an evaluate x band we decided to addd or reject the x band because their fullfill or fail the requeriments of the general guidelines of PA.
 
2.- Make public this decision in the right thread of the forum.
 
3.- The member that suggest x band, can complaint to the admin team that evaluate this particular case in a time no longer than 15 days.
 
4.- The admin decision will stand and have no other action.
 

This is not methodology, this is a resolution of approval or rejection in legal format, nothing more.

Methodology is what we have:

  1. Listen the albums of a band
  2. Vote
  3. If there's not full agreement, we talk among us and try to reach a consensus

The way we make public our decision is simple, you can visit Progfreak, enter to PA and check by teams the bands approved or rejected and see what members voted yay or nay.

We don't need a Public Proclamation.

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Points: 65766 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2009 at 19:21
and BTW; when you DON'T hear a decision you complain and when you DO hear a decision you complain..  what's it gonna be, hmm ?
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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2009 at 19:31
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

and BTW; when you DON'T hear a decision you complain and when you DO hear a decision you complain..  what's it gonna be, hmm ?



 
David, you are my friend and i will respect your desicion.Hug
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Points: 65766 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2009 at 19:37
OK I'm sorry Alberto, forgive my quick temper
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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2009 at 19:40
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

OK I'm sorry Alberto, forgive my quick temper


Don't worry David, i'm do errors too, and i know when i do those...
 
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Points: 15745 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2009 at 20:04
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Points: 530 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2009 at 09:33
I love Pescado, one of the greates argentinian bands, but I don't consider them a prog band, they were a hard rock band. Maybe they could be included as prog related the same  way as Led Zep was.

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Too sad it got rejected I also thought it could make it to PR, it must be really hard for the people making those decisions! There are so many great bands just scratching prog sounds over the world... and we sure can't start making them all part of PA.

Anyways I'm sure any prog fan will enjoy this masterpiece by pescado Rabioso: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYf05YTrO8U
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Points: 20706 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2009 at 14:30
Originally posted by Tycho Tycho wrote:

Too sad it got rejected I also thought it could make it to PR, it must be really hard for the people making those decisions! There are so many great bands just scratching prog sounds over the world... and we sure can't start making them all part of PA.
 
spoken with eloquence and maturity, Tycho... a very welcome first post...Clap
 
and a warm welcome to the site...Star
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Points: 24439 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2009 at 14:36
SecondedClap! We need more people like you, Tycho. A very warm welcome from me tooSmile!
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Points: 15745 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2009 at 14:38
^does this bump mean that PR will be re-considered?LOL
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Points: 1818 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2009 at 14:42

Wow a thread about Pescado Rabioso reaches three pages!!! Probably not prog but Pescado 2 totally smokes the White AlbumLOL

 
I mean it
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Points: 20706 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2009 at 14:45
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

^does this bump mean that PR will be re-considered?LOL
 
no, but your demotion back to Senior has been discussed... at length...Stern Smile
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Points: 15745 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2009 at 14:47
^Unhappy That's not funny you know, unless you re-consider PRTongue
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 20 2009 at 15:33
I think the rabid fish has finally died.
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