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Chris S
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 16:59 |
The games are almost over.................YAWN
Tibet will continue to be oppressed, so will Burma, Zimbabwe,Sudan etc.etc.
Athletes are not politicians and the world voted for China to hold these games so no use crying about it now.
What I find amazing is the majority of people I know could not give a damn about sport but these last three weeks have become experts in shotput, Canoeing, Hockey, Track events, swimming.
To quote Roger Waters, this species has amused itself to death
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Garion81
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 18:26 |
Chris Stacey wrote:
The games are almost over.................YAWN
Tibet will continue to be oppressed, so will Burma, Zimbabwe,Sudan etc.etc.
Athletes are not politicians and the world voted for China to hold these games so no use crying about it now.
What I find amazing is the majority of people I know could not give a damn about sport but these last three weeks have become experts in shotput, Canoeing, Hockey, Track events, swimming.
To quote Roger Waters, this species has amused itself to death |
So what if people only take an interest once every 4 years? What is the harm? I admit there are many aspects of the Olympics I don't like but nothing is perfect and in the end the hard work of every athlete that gets a chance to compete doing something they love is something to celebrate. Isn't it the reason we have Progarchives? Celebrating someone's hard work and vision? Funny how many armchair "'experts" we have here as well.
Is the Olympics the forum to talk about Tibet? I think not. These are about bypassing governments and promoting good will and sharing cultures even ones we don't really agree with. Understanding is the first key to real peace.
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 20:39 |
Garion81 wrote:
Chris Stacey wrote:
The games are almost over.................YAWN
Tibet will continue to be oppressed, so will Burma, Zimbabwe,Sudan etc.etc.
Athletes are not politicians and the world voted for China to hold these games so no use crying about it now.
What I find amazing is the majority of people I know could not give a damn about sport but these last three weeks have become experts in shotput, Canoeing, Hockey, Track events, swimming.
To quote Roger Waters, this species has amused itself to death |
So what if people only take an interest once every 4 years? What is the harm? I admit there are many aspects of the Olympics I don't like but nothing is perfect and in the end the hard work of every athlete that gets a chance to compete doing something they love is something to celebrate. Isn't it the reason we have Progarchives? Celebrating someone's hard work and vision? Funny how many armchair "'experts" we have here as well.
Is the Olympics the forum to talk about Tibet? I think not. These are about bypassing governments and promoting good will and sharing cultures even ones we don't really agree with. Understanding is the first key to real peace. |
I wouldn't mind so much if the British taxpayer didn't have to provide the money for the probably craply-presented 2012 Olympics. Frankly, I'd rather spend it on something that'll benefit the community than wasting it on more fodder for appalling paper headlines.
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micky
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 20:59 |
had never really thought of it.. but guess I have boycotted... haven't watched one single minute of it. Then again.. I'm more of a winter Olympics person myself.. the events are far more interesting. Baseball, football, Sottball... Basketball with a bunch of overpaid millionaires only there because winning was deemed more important than competing. We get those the other 10 months of the year. Didn't like that China was awarded them, and figured the only reason they were would have been massive amounts of cash being thrown around the right people.
wow... feeling cynical tonight.. anyway... no real interest at all and China should have never got the games. Apolitical or not.. this is the same country that ran it's own citizens down under tanks. No thanks.
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Chris S
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 21:22 |
Garion81 wrote:
Chris Stacey wrote:
The games are almost over.................YAWN
Tibet will continue to be oppressed, so will Burma, Zimbabwe,Sudan etc.etc.
Athletes are not politicians and the world voted for China to hold these games so no use crying about it now.
What I find amazing is the majority of people I know could not give a damn about sport but these last three weeks have become experts in shotput, Canoeing, Hockey, Track events, swimming.
To quote Roger Waters, this species has amused itself to death |
So what if people only take an interest once every 4 years? What is the harm? I admit there are many aspects of the Olympics I don't like but nothing is perfect and in the end the hard work of every athlete that gets a chance to compete doing something they love is something to celebrate. Isn't it the reason we have Progarchives? Celebrating someone's hard work and vision? Funny how many armchair "'experts" we have here as well.
Is the Olympics the forum to talk about Tibet? I think not. These are about bypassing governments and promoting good will and sharing cultures even ones we don't really agree with. Understanding is the first key to real peace.
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..." we got Pepsi in the andes, we have McDonalds in Tibet
between the tigris and euphrates we have a leisure centre now
we got all kinds of sports, we got bermuda shorts.....it's a miracle"
ps: glad you enjoy the olympics I know in my house I am in the minority. Anyway I am off to watch the Zimbabwe cricket team....
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Garion81
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Posted: August 18 2008 at 00:22 |
Micky wrote:
had never really thought of it.. but guess I have boycotted... haven't watched one single minute of it. Then again.. I'm more of a winter Olympics person myself.. the events are far more interesting. Baseball, football, Football... Basketball with a bunch of overpaid millionaires only there because winning was deemed more important than competing. We get those the other 10 months of the year. Didn't like that China was awarded them, and figured the only reason they were would have been massive amounts of cash being thrown around the right people.
wow... feeling cynical tonight.. anyway... no real interest at all and China should have never got the games. Apolitical or not.. this is the same country that ran it's own citizens down under tanks. No thanks.
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Up unto this particular team I would agree. But I have seen Kobe and the rest of the team in the stands rooting for the Women's BB team and both Kobe an LeBron James in the stands when Michael Phelps won his 8th gold rooting and yelling like any other fan. It was kind of inspiring and Kobe even said in an interview now I understand how a fan feels watching us. They are so jaded and sheltered that maybe this was a great experience for them. Really Mick is it their fault they are millionaires?
I like watching good competition and that is the only reason I like the games. It is drama in the moment (well in tape delayed fashion ) but people who spend there whole lives for this moment and in some cases how they will live depending on the result is pretty heavy drama. How about a 38 year old Romanian woman wining the marathon? or a 41 year old American woman winning silver against 18 year old in swimming? or little Kenya and Jamaica taling gold in some of the most prestigious track races?
So are you really in the frame of mind to punish the athletes for the arena they have to perform in if they are to perform period? Sounds like a 70's prog band singing with a major label.
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rileydog22
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Posted: August 18 2008 at 00:38 |
What really pisses me off is that they barred Iraq from competing. Sure, the country is guilty of heinous crimes (as are most countries in the world), but last time I checked those athletes that spent most of their lives preparing to compete in the Olympic games weren't involved. I don't see how any reasonable person could bar them from the games just because they happen to live in Iraq.
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