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    Posted: February 06 2008 at 09:44
I'm a 19 year old guitarist, due to commence teaching guitar for the first time formally. If there are any other guitar teachers on this website, I'd like to hear some stories about your first experiences, some of your first students and of course, from the more experienced teachers, some advice that can point me in a clearer direction, but even beginner teachers, feel free to have input tooSmile
I plan to bias my lessons more towards a lead guitar orientation, because I have seen how held back many self taught guitars have been from going straight into harmony, as they did not realise the theory behind the chords were in fact derived from the scales/modes. Learning Melody first and the scales and modes in general, for me, helped me to understand chordal theory significantly quicker and easier, because I had the fundamentals in front of me broken down, rather than in big harder/slower to understand chunks.
I also plan on having my first lesson as a real introductory lesson, rather than heading straight into it, as I believe certain fundamentals etc, have to be made clearer first, plus also get the students to play everything that know for at least 10mins, if not longer, to spot any errors in technique, and if so, note down what errors were shown, and gradually show them the way to correcting their errors. Obviously i also understand students learn at their own pace, but also, I expect them to put out what I put in for them as well, so I guess with each student, after a while that balance will become clear. And most importantly, make them understand why I want to teach guitar, my passion for music, help them to expand their musical taste, and maintain as much positivity as possible (i.e no harsh putdowns, but clear to the point without being negative and degrading).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 07 2008 at 04:30

I've taught various instruments - but not the guitar.

However, I think there are a few things I can bring to the table;

Every student is different. Duh.

Easy to forget, though - when I first taught the piano, it was because a friend of my mother wanted her sons to learn - and then their mothers' friends wanted their children to learn, and so on.

Most of the children came from similar backgrounds, were delightfully serious about learning, and truly wanted to do well, so they actually practiced at home and showed off their prowess as the lessons went on.

With these children it was easy to start right at the beginning with absolute basics, and going through technical stuff like scales, arpeggios, aural and even music theory just seemed to make it more interesting for them.
 
Then one day, a boy turned up who was more interested in football and playing games than the piano - he was co-erced into it by his mother, who wanted him to be like his friend (who came to me for lessons and had attained a distinction for Grade 3).
 
I found that by adjusting my own style, listening to him chat about football for a while, then trying to relate what he'd told me to music helped - and I developed a series of games based around the technical excercises, including making some of them sound like songs he liked.
 
I then got another boy who had "future drop-out" written all over his face. Again, it was a question of adjusting the style to suit, finding out what he wanted to learn (which was not the "boring" curriculum stuff, but pop music). He did eventually become a kind of drop-out (he stopped his piano lessons and I started teaching his mother instead!), but he NEVER lost his love of music - he bought a guitar and joined a band, and, to the best of my knowledge, is still playing. Last time I saw him he thanked me for getting him into the technical side of music, which he felt helped him to learn the guitar quickly.
 
 
The thing here is that everyone learns in their own ways, and at their own paces - never hurry a "slow" student.
 
If they're not practicing, give 'em hell though - if they stop lessons altogether as a result then they simply don't have the commitment it takes, so don't feel bad about it.
 
 
What I also found, however, is that students vary in their reactions to how you correct errors - you need to be very sensitive here, as some really don't like being told that they're "getting it wrong", even though they'll be too polite to say so.
 
All the older teachers I had, particurlay an Opera singing teacher I visited frequently at her home in Victoria, liked to "sugar the pill", as in "That was very good, now, if you try it like this, does that sound better to you?".
 
This technique, while very simple, has the added benefit of allowing the student to try different methods and develop their own musical approach - while there are a whole load of accepted techniques that are "right", there are nuances and subtleties that musicians can bring that reveal their own personal touches - and in my opinion, these are to be encouraged, where they don't interfere with "correct" technique.
 
 
Final tip for now is resist the urge to "show 'em how it's done".
 
Students tend to copy their teachers - that is almost inevitable, and once in a while, it's good to let them know who the boss is - why you're the teacher and they're not, and sometimes, a particular passage simply requires clarification.
 
Music is a very personal thing - it is initially a method of communication from artist to audience. When the artist communicates genuinely, then there is feedback, or resonance, and a kind of dialog is set up. Showing someone exactly how to play a piece of music is like telling someone how to give a speech - it can be done, but the end results tend not to be as convincing as when the speaker has their own, gripping style.
 
 
This is all top of the head stuff - hope it's helpful.
The important thing is not to stop questioning.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2008 at 14:55
I've been teaching young people guitar and other instruments for about 17 years. Almost all the kids I work with want to play hard rock, punk, alternative etc, so I work with that in mind. You can expose them to more advanced music once you have gained their trust.

Always use a specific song to teach anything, don't be too absract or they will lose interest. As soon as my guitarists have some basics ie how to read tablature, chord symbols and two basic bar chord forms I head straight to having them play the music they like. Some very helpful bands over the years have included Green Day, Nirvana, Blink 182, Metallica, Beatles, Hendrix, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Zep and even Santana and System of a Down.

If they're playing the songs they like they will work harder.
Keep it simple!!! If you have pre-teen or young teen boys head straight for the bar chords as soon as possible, simple 2 and 3 note bar chords of course.

Keep in mind my advice is based on working with young beginners, if you are working with older players with some experience, then that is a whole different ballgame.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2008 at 15:25
When I would teach guitar I would always remember the teaching styles I didn't like when I was learning, like when the instructor seemed more interested in showing me what they could do instead of focusing on my needs as a pupil--  it's about them, not your wonderful technique   ..I agree you should keep it simple and teach music appreciation as much as theory and technique, if you can get them excited about playing something - even if it's just 'Sunshine of Your Love' - that's half the battle  ..and at some point, you may want to have them bring in some music they like, learn it yourself, and show it to them    Good luck!

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2008 at 01:48
I've taught guitar for the last 2 years and am only a few years older than you.  Anyways, every summer I work for a rock and roll day camp and so I teach class guitar and also band rehearsals. Classes are much harder to teach than solo because there are more students which means louder (due to amps and kids' love of distortion).  Fixed that distortion issue by having lesson time as unplugged.  Worked quite well, everyone could hear themselves and it gave their ears a break between band practices. 

Anyways what I liked to do is keep in mind that most of the students (in class or solo lessons) are younger and generally like only rock and roll usually and just a few artists and songs.  So I will not be having fun explaining jazz chords and such which I can live with, but they're so cool!

Ask them if there are any songs or issues they would like to learn which can give you an idea of what to focus on.  I was teaching one little girl that only liked chirstmas carols which were all arranged to be played by single notes.  So I figured she'd probably like to learn some old reels and mountain songs. 

Some kids only want to learn theory or tricks and what have you.  Which can be fun because there are so many good tricks!

Just be confident in yourself and keep an open mind with what the students want to learn, be creative and help them branch out.  And remember to be patient.
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