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Points: 1594 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2008 at 15:30
I've had another listen to Live/Dead, Anthem of the Sun and Aoxomoxoa. My opinion hasn't changed much.

Live/Dead is the best of these three - Dark Star especially had a few interesting moments, and Feedback actually reminded me of AMM. I'll probably listen to Live/Dead again but there really wasn't anything on the other two albums that grabbed my attention.

 
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Points: 163 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2008 at 17:21
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Thanks for the info, I have books on Floyd and Soft Machine that probably mention them, seems like an interesting band that needs to be checked out. Does the AMM stand for anything?


AMM stands for AMM; there's no documented explanation for those cryptic initials.  I recall reading in an interview that the members of the group (Keith Rowe, Eddie Prevost, Lou Gare, Cornelius Cardew, John Tilbury) intentionally left the acronym undefined as a commentary of sorts on how the listener should approach the music.

Two major influences on the group were John Cage and abstract expressionist art.  Jackson Pollock's placement of his canvases on the floor directly influenced Rowe's "tabletop guitar" technique; the prepared piano techniques of Cage and others were among the catalysts for Rowe's experiments with preparing his guitar and using foreign objects to produce sound. 

Their early material is probably the best place to start; look for AMMusic or Live at the Crypt 1968.
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Points: 10615 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2008 at 19:49
Yeah, now it sounds familiar. I have some Cardew stuff off of a radio show that probably included some AMM stuff. Back in the late 60s avant garde artists like Cardew would do gigs with experimental rock bands. There were also a few performers who had their feet in both worlds like Fred Frith and John Cale.

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Points: 20239 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2008 at 10:12
The Dead has three albums which could be valid in PA had the "whole discography" policy not been in force. >> Wake Of The Flood, Blues For Allah and Terrapin Station.
 
 
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

as much as I love Jefferson Airplane.. they should have never been included here.  As I much as I hate saying this.. because good music does not equal prog... since JA is here... no reason in the world other than 'sterotypes' and labels.. why the Dead shouldn't.

in fact neither should be here... but can't have one.. and not the other.  In fact.. it can be argued that the Dead were in fact more progressive.. than JA.


wrong place for this thread by the way....
 
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And Jefferson Airplane is in proto-prog (mostly because they paved the way for many 70's traits by being "the first ones to "....) and dabbled in electronics back in 67, something that wouldn't fit the Dead. The two groups were vastly different, IMHO!! The Dead were definitely a jam band, something that only Casady and Kaukonen were friendly with in JA.
 
 
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