Is There A Line Between Noise & Music? |
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 01:20 |
Teh_Slippermenz
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 01:53 |
I can give you a simple answer:
"Trespass" by Genesis is music. "Eaten Back to Life" by Cannibal Corpse is noise. God-awful noise. |
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Peter
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 02:22 |
Of course there is -- but it's largely subjective.
What's music to some is noise to others, and vice-versa.
I think there'd be broad agreement, though, as to any given sonic phenomenon's fitness to even be in consideration for music status (even if pleasure/displeasure responses would vary widely).
I think music has to be deliberate -- an attempt by a thinking, sentient being to create music (thus I wouldn't accept unmanipulated patterns of sounds from nature -- no matter how pleasing -- or industry, as "music").
I suppose it is possible that whales and other advanced animals might have an artistic "esthetic" in their "songs," but as I'm not a whale, it's not music to me.
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
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Jim Garten
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 03:03 |
I can give you a simple caveat: In your opinion... |
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Visitor13
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Posted: November 15 2007 at 16:40 |
Very cool, thoughtful thread.
Here's my contibution: Merzbow, Cannibal Corpse and Keith Rowe are music. Sean Kingston is noise. |
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Visitor13
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Posted: November 16 2007 at 14:37 |
Sorry for the double post, but
What beautiful music. Thank you for posting this. |
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Philéas
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Posted: November 17 2007 at 17:17 |
If the artist considers it music, it is music.
Edited by Philéas - November 17 2007 at 17:17 |
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