Forum Home Forum Home > Site News, Newbies, Help and Improvements > Help us improve the site
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Album lock ?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedAlbum lock ?
 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message Reverse Sort Order
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
Hatters View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: May 06 2006
Status: Offline
Points: 466 		Direct Link To This Post Topic: Album lock ?
    Posted: April 11 2007 at 10:51
It's not really that much of a problem is it?
Back to Top
Easy Livin View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2007 at 15:41
We have spoken to the owners, it is they who were keenest that albums be added and available for review as soon as the details are officially announced.
Back to Top
The T View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2007 at 15:27
Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

I don't see why we can't just wait until an album is officially released to add it. It's not as if copies will sell out.
 
Exactly! And please, other prog-sites wait at least to a week before the release to review the album. Of course here it's not the same: we don't have people that HAVE to review an album nor I think we have labels sending us copies in advance to review....But it doesn't hurt to emulate good things... We are the the best prog-site on the web, FOR SURE. But we could be even better if we stopped any activities that might hurt the Archives' credibility....
 
Now I know the owners are the ones that make the decisions, but what about speaking with them about this? I've noticed a growing consensus against pre-release reviews (specially when that PRE part is like 3 months in advance!!!!)
 
Big%20smileTongue
Back to Top
bhikkhu View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: April 06 2006
Location: AČ Michigan
Status: Offline
Points: 5109 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2007 at 09:52
I don't see why we can't just wait until an album is officially released to add it. It's not as if copies will sell out.
a.k.a. H.T.

http://riekels.wordpress.com
Back to Top
Tristan Mulders View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: September 28 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 1723 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2007 at 08:14
I for one quite like the idea that only collaborator's can review those new releases. Perhaps solely on the basis of that we already know that those collabs (most of the time) write decent reviews when it comes to what they actually write (the contents)
Interested in my reviews?
You can find them HERE

"...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..."
Back to Top
Picklebury View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie
Avatar

Joined: April 09 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 72 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2007 at 17:37
^^^

I see your point.  If people want to get them when they come about, advance reviews help.  Still, it might be good to require that they say how they got it so that we come closer to KNOWing that it's legal... just because it would look better for the site.
Back to Top
Easy Livin View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2007 at 16:27
Collaborators do not necessarily receive advance copies of albums.
 
When I say "good for the site", I simply mean that our memebrs are interested in hearing about new albums and what people think of them, as soon as they can.
 
There are some high profile new releases coming up though, and we will be watching carefully to ensure that standards are maintained.
Back to Top
The T View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2007 at 16:10
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Early reviews are good for the site. If there are reasonable grounds to believe the album was obtained illegally, we would delete the review.

 
this is a fantastic idea...as I said it before, having un-released reviews hurts the site...I understand what you say: early reviews may draw more new people towards the archives.... but those same new people may be dissapointed to find out the poor quality of about 80% of un-released reviews... I insist on the idea that, unless it's by a collaborator, un-released albums shouldn't be reviewed until after the release date. If that's not what you meant with "early reviews are good for the site", what may be?
Back to Top
Easy Livin View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2007 at 15:28
Originally posted by Picklebury Picklebury wrote:

^^

So if they make no mention of how they got the album, it's fine?


 
Yup
Back to Top
Picklebury View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie
Avatar

Joined: April 09 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 72 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2007 at 15:01
^^

So if they make no mention of how they got the album, it's fine?

But then again, what can I say.  All the albums I listen to are my brother's, and he's still trying to catch up on the 70s, let alone modern releases...
Back to Top
Easy Livin View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2007 at 14:57

Early reviews are good for the site. If there are reasonable grounds to believe the album was obtained illegally, we would delete the review.

Back to Top
Tristan Mulders View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: September 28 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 1723 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2007 at 14:55
Or they can post their reviews on the forum instead... Big%20smile
Interested in my reviews?
You can find them HERE

"...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..."
Back to Top
Picklebury View Drop Down
Forum Groupie
Forum Groupie
Avatar

Joined: April 09 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 72 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2007 at 14:48
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

It's somehting we have considered.
 
Some reviewers get legitimate advanced copies before the release date. We would not wish to prevent them from submitting reviews.


Couldn't they wait?  Wouldn't hurt them.
Back to Top
Tristan Mulders View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: September 28 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 1723 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2007 at 13:16
Perhaps you could let those people contact administrators or something and that via communciation with PM they could send the review and the album could momentarily be unlocked.. the review gets posted by one of the site's admins and the album gets locked again Smile
Interested in my reviews?
You can find them HERE

"...He will search until He's found a Way to take the Days..."
Back to Top
Easy Livin View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2007 at 12:50
It's somehting we have considered.
 
Some reviewers get legitimate advanced copies before the release date. We would not wish to prevent them from submitting reviews.
Back to Top
kazansky View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 24 2006
Location: Indonesia
Status: Offline
Points: 5085 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2007 at 05:17
Here's an idea which comes to mind, but don't ask me how to do it, because i'm not a techy, or geek for that matters

Anyway, maybe the unreleased albums could be'locked', so it would prevent people from reviewing it. After the albums released, they can be'unlocked'...

any thougts on this ?
The devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.117 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.