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Poll Question: Prog or not? I think they are. What about you?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2007 at 15:02
No, no way, they are so not!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2007 at 17:45
Originally posted by Guzzman Guzzman wrote:

This has been discussed before and still the answer is: No, they're not Prog, some of their material had Proggish elements, they were an influential band, they discovered new musical land, they were fantastic. They shouldn't be in the Archives, which is something that has to be said about other bands, Queen among them IMHO. As long as there's the ProgArchives this question will be brought up again and again. DeadWacko Please stop it!I LOVE LED ZEPPELIN!


Rather harshly spoken but true.

When I first came here I was bound with the ignorance of this question.

Now that I am wiser in the ways of all prog I wish I could take back many of my dumber, less "knowing" posts...but I cant'...

Haha...my first thread on arriving I think was something a bit like this. I thought I was smart
The truth is, I was a dumbass, and continue to be a dumbass, but either way--I don't support Led Zeppelin being classified as prog.

Especially after reading a bio on them, and comparing it to a bio on Pink Floyd...

One was obviously prog, the other was not.

In the Pink Floyd bio, the words "Progressive Rock" as a classification was brought up many times, and also as in reference to peers (mostly Soft Machine).

In the Zep book, I don't think the term was ever used in a memorable way to describe their music.

All of this still boils down to opinion...but, if you read up on your common progressive tags, Zep wasn't a pretentious, theater-heavy, classical-music ridden, technically wowing, overblown concept album band...and that's what prog is all about!!!

...right? (kidding.)

Anyways, Zep was a blues rock band that later found themselves experimenting with folk music which led to the evolution of some pretty decent prog-like tracks--but at their core...they had nothing to do with the scene and miss the ties that the other bands of the time have to the genre. Had Bonham lived and the band continued to produce albums then perhaps, yes, they could be considered. But with their output...

Definately Proto-prog, and barely that.

Chairs! (pardon, I'm in a goofy mood today.)

I'm a reasonable man, get off my case
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2007 at 01:10
Not, in general; although Physical Graffiti has some prog moments.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 25 2007 at 00:06
They were originally part of the late 60s early 70s group of acts that were described as progressive because of their pushing the boundaries of what rock n roll was. Once the prog groups like Yes & Genesis started gaining attention, the term no longer meant the same. So Led Zep then became non-prog. A result that greatly affected their musical success there after - NOT !LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2007 at 12:32
No.
But they were a fantastic band and immensely influential.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2007 at 19:21
I have not been on the forum for quite a long while (illness, travel and reviewing).
I could extensively detail my feelings about Led Zep in my reviews. Since some members thought that I did not need to speak as I did about some songs of them, I have detailed almost each of them and my meaning has not changed for an inch : on the contrary. If add up all their discography, there MIGHT be five or six songs that are vaguely prog related. And yes, "Stairway" IS plagiatory for its whole introduction (but still it  is a great song). And no, the Untitled album (their fourth one) is not prog by any means.
 
Still, it is one of my "beloved" band (out of 127).
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2007 at 13:10
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

I define Prog as "Rock that demonstrates superior intelligence," and the site's definition is basically that in more words.  To me, Led Zeppelin didn't make any music any "smarter" than any other classic rock band.  For that matter, neither did Queen; it was all pop with bombast, and bombast does not prog make. 


Hard to define "superior intelligence", so I'll (surprisingly for me) let that one go. But saying that BOMBAST DOES NOT PROG MAKE ! How dare you insult Rush, Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Tull, Ange, DT, et al. Bombast & pretention are two very important ingredients in your stereotypical prog. And I like my prog in stereo .

P.S. Finegan says woof > his mom's coming in from Dalmatia, & his dad's due back soon from Labrador.


Edited by pantacruelgruel - April 23 2007 at 13:10
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