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Points: 3928 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2007 at 15:41
I don't really get into a lather about these inclusions. There are some acts, without wishing to flare an argument, like Led Zeppelin, Fairport Convention, Triumph (especially them) that I wouldn't personally have ever considered even related to prog, really, but that's just a personal opinion. And anyway these acts are in 'prog related' category which is clearly expressed as being merely bands considered adjacent to prog rather than being it, so to speak. At the end of the day, you DON'T have to review those albums or even look at their pages.
 
I find it frankly bizarre that so many of these threads expressing deep trauma about such trivialities appear, really. One upon a controversial inclusion's announcement I can understand but not months or even years after they have taken place. One would have expected the heat to have cooled off by then, IMHO.


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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2007 at 03:49
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

And the most contested must be The Who. The additions of Radiohead, Queen, LZ, Black Sabbath, Beatles, although contentious were otherwise comparatively smooth.


Comparatively smooth..? There are still wards in psychiatric hospitals full of post traumatic stress disorder sufferers following the Radiohead wars of 2004 and the short but vicious Queen uprising of 2005...

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Points: 1497 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2007 at 04:10
There are many bands discussed here that are nothing to do with prog in my opinion but I won't lose any sleep over them. 
 
I guess that there are many younger music enthusiasts who, whilst they enjoy what I and many of my age would call real prog (Yes, VDGG, Genesis, etc) would still like to include their contemporary bands, most of which aren't prog in the original sense.
 
Similarly there will always be bands on the verge of prog which you personally really enjoy; therefore you may campaign to get them included in the forum.  Then you get to the business that one man's prog is another man's art rock and who are we to argue?
 
Let's just enjoy the music and comment on the bands that we like, not sl*g off the bands that we don't.Thumbs%20Up
 
Iron Maiden 'though???????LOL
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2007 at 07:25
Originally posted by Heavyfreight Heavyfreight wrote:

Let's just enjoy the music and comment on the bands that we like, not sl*g off the bands that we don't




Originally posted by Heavyfreight Heavyfreight wrote:

who are we to argue?


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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2007 at 10:23
Originally posted by Heavyfreight Heavyfreight wrote:

There are many bands discussed here that are nothing to do with prog in my opinion but I won't lose any sleep over them. 
 
I guess that there are many younger music enthusiasts who, whilst they enjoy what I and many of my age would call real prog (Yes, VDGG, Genesis, etc) would still like to include their contemporary bands, most of which aren't prog in the original sense.
 
Similarly there will always be bands on the verge of prog which you personally really enjoy; therefore you may campaign to get them included in the forum.  Then you get to the business that one man's prog is another man's art rock and who are we to argue?
 
Let's just enjoy the music and comment on the bands that we like, not sl*g off the bands that we don't.Thumbs%20Up
 
Iron Maiden 'though???????LOL
 
This will be the last time I say this.
 
Why can we have bands/artists related to symphonic prog,etc. in Prog Related but not a band that was hugely influential to the development of progressive metal?
 
This bias towards PM is getting OLD.
 


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Points: 2537 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2007 at 11:51
I agree with The Progtologist on this.
I would also go as far as to suggest Malmsteen in Prog Related (Just for his output in the early ´80s)
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Points: 4088 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2007 at 11:54
Originally posted by WaywardSon WaywardSon wrote:

I agree with The Progtologist on this.
I would also go as far as to suggest Malmsteen in Prog Related (Just for his output in the early ´80s)
 
I agree here, he has had, after all, a major impact on bands like Symphony X and Dream Theater, to name but these two !
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Points: 12818 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2007 at 13:59
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

And the most contested must be The Who. The additions of Radiohead, Queen, LZ, Black Sabbath, Beatles, although contentious were otherwise comparatively smooth.


Comparatively smooth..? There are still wards in psychiatric hospitals full of post traumatic stress disorder sufferers following the Radiohead wars of 2004 and the short but vicious Queen uprising of 2005...

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You appreciate I was talking about time, not nastiness of arguements (although there is a point in these politer, draw out things when I've started to believe I'm wasting a lot of breath)Smile
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