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el böthy 
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Posted: October 30 2006 at 15:36 |
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Some bands often have their instruments tuned differently so they can play most of their songs on it, or some tend to use a lot a specific scale. Take Tool for an example, about 90% of their songs are in D, cause Adam tunes his guitar in D...any more examples? Or things some musicians tend to use a lot?
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MarkOne
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Posted: November 02 2006 at 12:36 |
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I would argue any half decent PROG band should be completely proficient in any key, and happy to change key at the drop of a hat.
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Posted: November 02 2006 at 15:37 |
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U2 used to drop all their guitars by a tone or a semitone (I forget which). Someone forgot to tell a new roadie once - you can probably guess what happened.
My favourite non-standard tuning is on Led Zeppelin's "That's the way".
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Rosescar
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Posted: November 05 2006 at 14:29 |
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Didn't Slash use a slightly different tuning? DADGBD? Not sure.
Apparently Fripp uses something crazy according to some guy who thinks he's tonedeaf and doesn't know how to play.
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Posted: November 06 2006 at 12:54 |
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Opeth uses DADFAE in Ghost Reveries. It sounds cool!
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Posted: November 06 2006 at 13:03 |
I like to tune to C a lot
C-F-Bb-Eb-G-C
I also tune the low C to B for a very low version of what people call drop D.
But I have stopped tuning down a lot, and just use standards E, drop D and D (one step down).
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el böthy
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Posted: November 07 2006 at 13:23 |
 Rosescar wrote:
Didn't Slash use a slightly different tuning? DADGBD? Not sure.
Apparently Fripp uses something crazy according to some guy who thinks he's tonedeaf and doesn't know how to play.
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no, he tunes just like me 
everything half note lower, E becomes Eb and so on... its actually quite good, as it has a wider sound, and is very good for playing solos in a bluesy way... Stevie Ray Veughan and Hendrix used the same tuning
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Posted: November 07 2006 at 13:41 |
MarkOne wrote:
I would argue any half decent PROG band should be completely proficient in any key, and happy to change key at the drop of a hat. |
I doubt that the typical prog band could "change key at the drop of a hat" ... most instruments have certain "anomalies" like open strings (guitars) white/black keys (keyboards), some even lack certain notes (trumpets, vibraphone etc). Even drums are tuned (at least the tom-toms) ... Usually most musicians take advantage of these things, so to change the key would require many changes that aren't always easy to implement - they're nearly impossible sometimes.
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lucky_man123
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Posted: November 17 2006 at 18:21 |
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Larry Graham (Sly and the Family Stone, Graham Central Station) uses his low E string as much as possible, so he's usually in E or A.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z1IuD6F3R5I
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Gaston
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Posted: November 19 2006 at 16:51 |
That's why many bands have songs that sound almost exactly the same, Tool is a good example, great band, very repetative and one of the main reasons is that they play in the same key all the time, humans have the ability to subconsiously hear that, it's a fact. So not only do your riffs, motifs and progressions sound the same, theyre all in the same key. To me that's boring, un-original and unnecessary. For my band, I'll kick members out if they write more than one song in the same key. God knows what will happen if they use the same progression or riff twice  j/k, but we will change keys for songs that were originally written in a certain key if we think we have too many songs in one key. But another thing you can't forget, at least in our band, we play 20 minute songs that merge into other 20 minute songs and if you have a few songs in the same key that's a seamless progression and very cool. We use standard tuning, btw... [/2 cents] Gaston
Edited by Gaston - November 19 2006 at 16:53
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 13:24 |
I tend to play in D alot, whether or not I'm in a D-based (no pun intended; I swear) tuning. I'm also prone to play in A a good bit. I tend to switch scales within the same base not alot, though. I'm also fond of DADAAD, or I was until I snapped both my G strings on my 12-string tuning there last time  Alot of that comes down to me being a single guitarrist trying to fill all the holes that would normally be filled by a full band. I drone low strings alot to do this, so I wind up key-locked to one note pretty easily. The only things I have real freedom to change are mood and texture related, so I work those enough to compensate for the fact that a song never leaves D.
Edited by epifreak - November 21 2006 at 13:27
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