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Poll Question: Well, did Kilroy kill Styx
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Originally posted by johnobvious johnobvious wrote:

Styx gets way too bashed around here IMO.  They put out some kick butt albums but ran out of steam, probably because Dennis DeYoung went all broadway on them.  

 
My thoughts exactly...these days they are better off without DeYoung....Check out Cyclorama wit Lawrence Gowan insted...great album!
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I was a huge fan until Cornerstone was released and with Babe being a monsterhit unfortunately it went pretty soggy from there on.
I love the 4 Wooden Nickel releases and the following 4 A&M,releases (incl. PO8).
They could sing they could prog and rock,but not dance.
Equinox is one amazing album and is in my all time top 10.
PO8 was one rocking album.
These days I am just too tired of GI.


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I love every album they made up to Cornerstone and Paradise Theater.  That's when they became huge, and, to me, that's when they died.  Although I have to admit that I have been blown away by a Styx concert I saw last year (with Saga).  Gowan is an amazing frontman and a more than suitable replacement for Dennis DeYoung.
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You know when "Mr. Roboto" is featured at the end of "My Name is Earl" as a funny bit with Earl and Randy dancing to it in a strobe light that it definitely marks that album as the end of Styx's run as a band to be taken seriously.  I've seen them twice in the last five years and they definitely put on a good show and sound pretty tight so I can't completely discount them as decent musicians but I can't say I was ever a real fan.  I never owned a Styx album.
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Originally posted by Melomaniac Melomaniac wrote:

I love every album they made up to Cornerstone and Paradise Theater.  That's when they became huge, and, to me, that's when they died.  Although I have to admit that I have been blown away by a Styx concert I saw last year (with Saga).  Gowan is an amazing frontman and a more than suitable replacement for Dennis DeYoung.
 
Definitely!  GO see them with GOWAN!
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Points: 4981 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2006 at 15:47
I have to admit, I messed up the poll by forgetting to add an option that said, no, they died later, as well as an option, no, they never died.
 
But it's a bit late for that...
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Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

heheh Mr Roboto is so bad its actually a lot of fun!
Secret secret, I got a secret secret...LOL
 
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Dead Stynx deserve their own brand of CHEESE for that one!
 
(Maybe that's what that "favourite cheese" pollster meant, by "American cheese?")
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Originally posted by yarstruly yarstruly wrote:

Originally posted by Melomaniac Melomaniac wrote:

I love every album they made up to Cornerstone and Paradise Theater.  That's when they became huge, and, to me, that's when they died.  Although I have to admit that I have been blown away by a Styx concert I saw last year (with Saga).  Gowan is an amazing frontman and a more than suitable replacement for Dennis DeYoung.
 
Definitely!  GO see them with GOWAN!
 
Already did, that's what I said !
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Originally posted by gr8dane gr8dane wrote:

I was a huge fan until Cornerstone was released and with Babe being a monsterhit unfortunately it went pretty soggy from there on.
I love the 4 Wooden Nickel releases and the following 4 A&M,releases (incl. PO8).
They could sing they could prog and rock,but not dance.
Equinox is one amazing album and is in my all time top 10.
PO8 was one rocking album.
These days I am just too tired of GI.
 
IMO Cornerstone had it's moments, the Melodic Folksy Boat on the River and the fabulous vocal work in Lights are outstanding, but yes Babe was an aberration.
 
Their decline in popularity started with the accusations of Satanism with Snowblind.
 
Kilroy was Here was just the last nail in the coffin.
 
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Points: 43855 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2006 at 17:53
  yes, it sure did kill Styx , for a while at least. KWH is one of the worst things i've ever heard in rock music. CHEESY.
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'Domo origato, Mr Roboto' anyone? One of the worst songs ever. Everybody in the band seemingly hated that whole affair bar Dennis DeYoung who has always seemingly had the Broadway mentality. He even performs in Broadway these days!
Tommy Shaw I believe said he felt like crying when a 10 year old kid said how much he like 'Mr Roboto'. That song is so awful I never bothered with 'Kilroy'. To be honest, even 'Paradise Theater' I always felt was far too Broadway- a shame because the first 4 A & M albums (forget about those poor Wooden Nickel albums) are superb pomp rock. Such rubbish like 'The Best Of Times' and 'Babe' had effectively maligned their credibility with rock fans anyway, even before 'Kilroy' seems to have.
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IMO Styx started to become bad between Cornerstone and Paradise Theater. Kilroy is just the " last nail in the coffin", as Ivan said, because it is the album where there is nothing interesting. 
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It damn near kills ME, when I hear it.Dead
 
"Mr Loboto" is one of the lamest songs ever, in the history of music -- any genre.
 
 
The Kraft Processed Cheese Slices of prog!
 
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Give the new line up a chance, they have been resurrected...
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I thought it was great up to Paradise Theatre. It wasn't as good as the others but they still could have pulled it out of the fire. Pieces of Eight and Grand Illusion are still some of my favourite albums, although I haven't heard either for a couple of years now. To borrow a phrase, Killroy was when the band jumped the shark. I thought the storyline was pretty lightweight and silly. It reminded me of something an 8th grade kid would come up with. Mr. Roboto is one of the songs that gives 80's music a bad name.
 
I'm wondering if everyone's hate of "Babe" is the song itself or the fact it was played EVERYWHERE for a few years (every radio station, every stereo shop, every record shop...) and everyone just grew tired of it.
 
 
 
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

 
Their decline in popularity started with the accusations of Satanism with Snowblind.
  
 
 
Wow, I nearly forgot that bit. This seems so silly in the age of Marilyn Manson. 
I don't think it really affected them. Mind you the accusations of backward messages was part of the inspiration for the adolescent storyline of Killroy.
 
 
 
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I honestly think 'Babe' was rather odious- the band themselves (bar DeYoung) said it was that song that made everybody forget they were a heavy rock band, and 'Babe' started them being perceived as a ballads band. I don't own any of their stuff past 'Pieces Of Eight'- their last great effort imo.
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Originally posted by darren darren wrote:

 
 
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

 
Their decline in popularity started with the accusations of Satanism with Snowblind.
  
 
 
Wow, I nearly forgot that bit. This seems so silly in the age of Marilyn Manson. 
I don't think it really affected them. Mind you the accusations of backward messages was part of the inspiration for the adolescent storyline of Killroy.  
 
It was qute funny, if you own Kilroy was here, before the song Heavy Metal Poisoning you listen a prayer that played backwards seens in Latin or some weird language, I tried it with an old tape and it worked, clearly said:
 
"Annuit Coeptis Novus Ordo Seclorum," (You can listen the sample using the link).
 
I believe the 700 Club or another similar program accused them of Satanism, made a whole issue, brought an expert to prove the "hidden message" (It was so obvious that accusations of hiding it were less than ridiculous) but STYX kept quiet, until JY showed on TV what the phrase ment and where it coud be found:
 

 
The good old One Dollar bill.
 
It was a good joke to make fun of the fanatics.
 
But the accusations of Satanism really affected their popularity among middle class average listeners, remember we're talking about the 80's and it was a different world.
 
Then Tommy Shaw left and the band lost all their popularity, soon after John Panozzo died, Chuck Panozzo got very sick because of the AIDS, they joined for a tour but De Young sued the rest of the band and everything was downhill.
 
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Yes. There was a reunion with De Young. But he left the band because he also became sick of a strange virus, so he left the band because it took him too long to have good health again, and they continued without him, but De Young sued them without success.
 
"The Grand Illusion" album is one of the favourites of their fans. It is the only album that I have from Styx. Apart from "Come Sail Away" , I don`t like it. Particularly, I can`t stand the lyrics of "Superstars".
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I had to say yes!!  As far as being a good rock band, or art rock band...I think their initial death came with the piece of garbage that was "Cornerstone" in 1979!  They came back strong with "Paradise Theatre" in 1981 but once Dennis DeYoung exerted more control and pulled the Broadway nonsense...that was it!!!  "Kilroy" is not a terrible album and it has some great songs, but overall it feels like 3 solo albums and not one cohesive unit...just like "Brave New World" 16 years later!!!!!!!
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The last real signs of life that Styx displayed were on the Grand Illusion.
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