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Reed Lover
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Topic: The Holy Gift from Tool Posted: December 27 2004 at 15:09 |
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goose
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Posted: December 27 2004 at 14:58 |
Radiolaria wrote:
there are things
encoded on the factory pressing of the cd that are lost in [...] any direct copy onto a cd-r.
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Radiolaria
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Posted: December 25 2004 at 14:06 |
I am usually very cynical. But try it! For the love of Prog!
I am a ARDENT  believer in putting crazy mathematical hiddenness
in music.
TRY IT.
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When 900 years you reach, look as good, you will not.
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Captain Fudge
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Posted: December 25 2004 at 13:18 |
Just kidding. I'm a big fan and after buying an album I always try to use programmed play on my audio system to figure out better tracklists. I'll try it right away!
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Teenage sucks hard -- Emo sucks even harder
Epic. Simply epic.
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Captain Fudge
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Posted: December 25 2004 at 13:16 |
wait, aren't Tool sort of, umm... What's that word...SATANIC?
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Teenage sucks hard -- Emo sucks even harder
Epic. Simply epic.
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threefates
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Posted: December 25 2004 at 10:00 |
Probably brought to you by the same folks who tried watching Dark Side of the Moon and The Wizard of Oz at the same time....
Uhh.. was the movie suppose to pause while I turned the record over...???
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THIS IS ELP
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Man Overboard
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Posted: December 25 2004 at 08:21 |
Bored, I tried it about a year ago. Boring as f**k, not worthwhile, and certainly not "holy".
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BebieM
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Posted: December 25 2004 at 06:14 |
omg, that sounds crazy 
i wouldn't call it holy gift though .... even if it's true
but it's kindof interesting in my opinion, i don't share this "it's just the music that counts" attitude. If bands really manage to make their albums even more complex by this kind of stuff, I'd appreciate it, unles they forget to make their actual music sound complex as well
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Metropolis
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Posted: December 25 2004 at 05:10 |
Perhaps a little bit cynical Will, but you could be right, I for one will be checking this out with an open mind...
...as soon as the holidays are over and i get back to my full cd collection which i am currently without
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will
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Posted: December 24 2004 at 17:05 |
I read most of it and it just seems he was looking for something so he found soething, if you see what i mean.
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Long live progression.
Will
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threefates
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Posted: December 24 2004 at 16:54 |
I think I'd rather get back into the,,,,,,,,
Publius Enigma
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THIS IS ELP
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frenchie
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Posted: December 24 2004 at 16:27 |
actually if you think about it there are more clues to take in to factor.
if this spiral thing was deliberate, it woulda taken a long time to make right. this cud explain the 5 year gap between aenima and lateralus. and they have been writing a new album for years as well.
i think they might have tried something like this on aenima and failed, which had a 3 year gap between the previous album. tool write very complex and perfected albums.
one thing i did notice was aenima introduced the use of bridging tracks... eg intermission, useful idiot, message to harry manback, die eier von satan, - ions, cesaro summability. these tracks were used to link together the previous and next track. eg they wud be stuck inbetween 2 of the main long tracks. this techinique didnt flow too well on aenima yet was perfected on laterlus
the grudge and the patient were bridged perfectly by eon blue apocolypse. the same goes for mantra, parabol, disposition. they all kept the flow going to make the album seem like one everlasting piece of music rather than a collection of songs.
they obviously spend a hell of a lot of time writing their albums so the band have a lot of time to perfect techniques so this holy gift is quite possible
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frenchie
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Posted: December 24 2004 at 16:09 |
mite be a bit over the top. i read on the official site about this spiral and its a bit undetermined.
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Bryan
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Posted: December 24 2004 at 15:01 |
Remember in another thread where someone mentioned how Tool is really just doing all of this to f**k with people and make them come up with dumb ideas like this one?
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James Lee
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Posted: December 24 2004 at 14:42 |
My love of mathematical mysticism is second only to my love for nu-metal. Where does one go to exchange the Holy Gift?
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Reed Lover
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Posted: December 24 2004 at 14:39 |
penguindf12 wrote:
????????
(I'm completely lost --I knows zero music theory and hasn't taken algebra 2 yet)
HOLY CRAP, though. Geez, geez, geez. I haven't heard Tool yet, trust me, it's on my list of stuffs to get. Right now I'm plowing thru the older prog, with some prog metal here and there. But I shall listen to Lateralus, and then maybe I'll get it...
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Thought you were more grounded than that Pingu! This is just mumbo-jumbo for people with too much free time on their hands. It could all be designed as the guy says it is-but so what.The music is what counts.
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penguindf12
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Posted: December 24 2004 at 14:36 |
????????
(I'm completely lost --I knows zero music theory and hasn't taken algebra 2 yet)
HOLY CRAP, though. Geez, geez, geez. I haven't heard Tool yet, trust me, it's on my list of stuffs to get. Right now I'm plowing thru the older prog, with some prog metal here and there. But I shall listen to Lateralus, and then maybe I'll get it...
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greenback
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Posted: December 24 2004 at 13:31 |
^ ditto
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[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>
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threefates
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Posted: December 24 2004 at 13:02 |
I don't actually like Tool at all... Sorry! Altho I've met Danny Carey a few times and he seems nice enough.
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THIS IS ELP
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Reed Lover
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Posted: December 24 2004 at 13:00 |
Holy Gift. Wholly Sh*t!
Edited by Reed Lover
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