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    Posted: June 26 2006 at 01:21
can someone explain the title, i really havent heard pt 1 too much but i have the album pt 2, but i dont see what it has to do with metropolis, metropolis being a large city, while the album is more based around some kinda weird murder love phyciatric deal.  My curiousity about the title came after I did some reading about that classic sci-fi film Metropolis. so please, someone share
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This would probably be a good question for www.dtfaq.com however, I think the site was suspended for some reason.

As you probably know, Metropolis pt.1 wasn't meant to have a sequel, maybe the band just decided on some name for the I&W track and later on, when they were convinced to make a pt.2, they just kept the name.

If you haven't read the review, I have it saved and can post it here if you'd like... as for the real reason behind the name, I only have an idea.
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Well the song's concept was originally going to be about the two brothers Romulus and Remus who fought to the death with Romulus emerging to form the city Rome.
 
Then after that concept was dropped I guess they liked the name and kept it, eventually becoming a character in the later album.
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Points: 83 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2006 at 03:13
hmm, so it's just a snazzy title then, eh
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yeah, www.dtfaq.com will be good, also try on www.mikeportnoy.com and choose the FAQ section...
 
I agree about the name "Metrpolis", i reckon its just an idea.. Metropolis Pt.1 (I mean the Pt.1 thing) was originally just for a joke, what i mean is, nothing serious or there was no plan to make the second part or even the third part. But then fans asked for the second part and there it is, one of the best prog metal album..
 
And maybe uve known this, the album was recorded without a rehearsal session, they just recordid straight away... A masterpiece, IMO

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Points: 2450 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2006 at 03:59
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Well the song's concept was originally going to be about the two brothers Romulus and Remus who fought to the death with Romulus emerging to form the city Rome.
 
Then after that concept was dropped I guess they liked the name and kept it, eventually becoming a character in the later album.
 
 
eh, really? Romulus and Remus??

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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2006 at 13:41
Yes? Those would be the brother's names.
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Here's the theory I know of Metropolis.
 
The two main characters are the brothers Julian (The Sleeper), a lazy guy in New York City surrounding his life with crime never being the man he was meant to be, and Edward (The Miracle), a hard worker who became a senator from New York.  Both of these twins shared the same mind.
 
There is also another character Victoria who was in love with both twins at one time.  The song "Home" is the most conclusive evidence of what both brothers thought of this. 
 
Now, you'll notice that in Metropolis Part II, there is both past and present time.  The two characters Nicholas and the hypnotherapist are reincarnations of Victoria (Nicholas) and Edward the miracle (the hypnotherapist).  When Edward kills Victoria in "Finally Free" you'll hear "open your eyes Victoria".  When the hypnotherapist kills Nicholas you'll hear "open your eyes Nicholas".  This is what leads many to believe who those two are reincarnated into. 
 
Another thing to in mind is the phase "Love is the Dance of Eternity".  The whole things is kind of like a waltz.  This is strictly for Metropolis Part I.  Edward the miracle is the first, Julian the sleeper is the second, and Victoria is the third, the dance of eternity. 

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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Yes? Those would be the brother's names.
 
so have u changed ur mind?

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Points: 10063 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2006 at 19:18
Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Here's the theory I know of Metropolis.
 
The two main characters are the brothers Julian (The Sleeper), a lazy guy in New York City surrounding his life with crime never being the man he was meant to be, and Edward (The Miracle), a hard worker who became a senator from New York.  Both of these twins shared the same mind.
 
There is also another character Victoria who was in love with both twins at one time.  The song "Home" is the most conclusive evidence of what both brothers thought of this. 
 
Now, you'll notice that in Metropolis Part II, there is both past and present time.  The two characters Nicholas and the hypnotherapist are reincarnations of Victoria (Nicholas) and Edward the miracle (the hypnotherapist).  When Edward kills Victoria in "Finally Free" you'll hear "open your eyes Victoria".  When the hypnotherapist kills Nicholas you'll hear "open your eyes Nicholas".  This is what leads many to believe who those two are reincarnated into. 
 
Another thing to in mind is the phase "Love is the Dance of Eternity".  The whole things is kind of like a waltz.  This is strictly for Metropolis Part I.  Edward the miracle is the first, Julian the sleeper is the second, and Victoria is the third, the dance of eternity. 
Exactly!!!!!!Clap

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Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Here's the theory I know of Metropolis.
 
The two main characters are the brothers Julian (The Sleeper), a lazy guy in New York City surrounding his life with crime never being the man he was meant to be, and Edward (The Miracle), a hard worker who became a senator from New York.  Both of these twins shared the same mind.
 
There is also another character Victoria who was in love with both twins at one time.  The song "Home" is the most conclusive evidence of what both brothers thought of this. 
 
Now, you'll notice that in Metropolis Part II, there is both past and present time.  The two characters Nicholas and the hypnotherapist are reincarnations of Victoria (Nicholas) and Edward the miracle (the hypnotherapist).  When Edward kills Victoria in "Finally Free" you'll hear "open your eyes Victoria".  When the hypnotherapist kills Nicholas you'll hear "open your eyes Nicholas".  This is what leads many to believe who those two are reincarnated into. 
 
Another thing to in mind is the phase "Love is the Dance of Eternity".  The whole things is kind of like a waltz.  This is strictly for Metropolis Part I.  Edward the miracle is the first, Julian the sleeper is the second, and Victoria is the third, the dance of eternity. 
Exactly!!!!!!Clap
 
I should get a new title on this forum. 
 
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Originally posted by imoeng imoeng wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Yes? Those would be the brother's names.
 
so have u changed ur mind?
 
I don't know what you are trying to insinuate. I said that was the original concept of the song which was dropped for what AtLossForWords so thoroughly explained. If you would come out and say what you mean it would be helpful.
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