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The T 
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 Posted: January 04 2007 at 22:54 |
 Atavachron wrote:
Cheesecakemouse wrote:
The T wrote:
Let's not forget the ROCK part of the term progressive-rock. Even though Miles Davis' music is excellent, I think this is not an all-genre music website, it's a prog-rock website. I think, even though he may have done some work with rock elements, his music should not be part of the archives. |
According to your logic then neither should Univers Zero, Art Zoyd Jean Michel Jarre, Mike Oldfield and Tangerine Dream be allowed on this website. |
Actually there is an excellent argument to be made for just that. None of the artists you mention are rock except for maybe UZ. The exclusion of Jarre, Oldfield and Tangerine Dream would be entire logical and appropriate. I like all of them and am glad they are here, they made huge impacts. But if they were not here it would also make sense.
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I agree completely with this last comment. It makes some sense for them to be inlcuded here (stretching it a little bit, specially with master Jarre whose music I love but it's not too "rocky")... but it would make even more sense not to have them on PA.
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The T
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Posted: January 04 2007 at 22:59 |
Sorry..... it's also then a matter of semantics (for the hundreth time)  We can't agree what "progressive" means... why would be agree on what "rock" means?  I guess this discussion has no end.... For some of us have some pre-conceived ideas of what prog and rock are, some think completely different. I have said it before: there are bands like ELP that have some pieces with absolutely no "rock" in them... but most of their output is rock, and prog rock at that, so it makes sense.. But when the artist's work is 80% jazz and less than 10% rock, I don't see any coherence in his inclusion in the archives. But that's me. Luckily, we disagree. If we didn't, this website would DIE.
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Cheesecakemouse
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Posted: January 04 2007 at 23:02 |
Mind you I've read in some places prog rock being called progressive music.
But your right diversity of opinions is a healthy thing especially in this website.
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 04 2007 at 23:11 |
Cheesecakemouse wrote:
According to you I should 'think for myself' by just following your opinion even if its at odds with everyone. ] |
We should all think for ourselves by following what *we believe* to be true or have found to be accurate based on the weight of evidence. But this evidence must come from your own listening and findings, not from anyone else-- not from me, him, her, PA, not anyone. If after this research, you happen to agree with a majority of writers that, indeed, an assertion is true, then more power to you. Otherwise, it's basically just hearsay
Edited by Atavachron - January 04 2007 at 23:18
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Chus
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Posted: January 04 2007 at 23:19 |
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there's no doubt he is fusion.... although I admit that it's in a different vein from many other fusion bands listed here (taking more from funk rhythms and such)... I still have to listen to many of his albums but there's no doubt that Miles did fusion... and people should know there are no preconceived sounds in fusion
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Cheesecakemouse
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Posted: January 05 2007 at 00:09 |
Atavachron wrote:
Cheesecakemouse wrote:
According to you I should 'think for myself' by just following your opinion even if its at odds with everyone. ] |
We should all think for ourselves by following what *we believe* to be true or have found to be accurate based on the weight of evidence. But this evidence must come from your own listening and findings, not from anyone else-- not from me, him, her, PA, not anyone. If after this research, you happen to agree with a majority of writers that, indeed, an assertion is true, then more power to you. Otherwise, it's basically just hearsay
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Look I know how to think for myself I'm merely backing up my argument, you see I you can back it up it has weight if you do not have anything to back it up its pointless. You could sayanything about anything like Miles Davis is electroinca, or that its heavy metal, the only thing you'll convince people is that your a loon.
I'm not saying your a loon all I'm saying is you can't say random things without backing it up. Like you saying Miles Davis fusion is not fusion just because you think so, is not constructive.
Edited by Cheesecakemouse - January 05 2007 at 00:10
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OGTL
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Posted: January 06 2007 at 02:17 |
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With bands included like "Iron Maiden" and "The Doors" I don't think ti would hurt at all.
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Should Miles Davis be in the archives
