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Topic: for fans of Grand Funk Railroad an obit Posted: November 16 2004 at 16:32 |
I'm not of this cadre but if there are any fans of Grand Funk out there, this obit from tomorrow's Guardian newspaper....
During the early 1970s the heavy rock trio Grand Funk Railroad was the biggest band in the United States, appalling critics but selling millions of albums to working-class teenagers. The group’s success was due in large part to the promotional genius of their manager and producer Terry Knight, who has died aged 61 of gunshot wounds suffered during a domestic dispute. Born in Flint, Michigan, he attended Lapeer high school. By the early 1960s Knight had become a successful local disc jockey, but yearned to appear on stage. After stand-up comedy and folk singing, he became lead singer in a local group after convincing them that he knew Mick Jagger and Brian Jones. “Terry Knight and the Pack” developed a local following and had some minor hits. In 1967, in London, Knight met Paul McCartney and Twiggy. Back in the USA, he composed and recorded the song St Paul. Beatle folklore has it that this was the source of the rumours that McCartney had died. The Pack split up, but in 1968 Knight was invited to manage a group formed by its ex-members Mark Farner and Don Brewer. He named it Grand Funk Railroad - inspired by the local Grand Trunk Railroad company and, embarking on the mission to make it famous, got the group a booking at the Atlanta International Pop Festival of 1969. There they played to a crowd of 125,000 in a temperature of 110 degrees. This brought a Capitol Records contract and six Knight-produced albums within three years. In 1971, Grand Funk Railroad, like the Beatles before them, sold out New York’s Shea Stadium. The sound was simple power chord riffs, the lyrics jejune protests against parents and war, and the band sold millions to young Americans unimpressed with psychedelia and progressive rock. Knight tirelessly promoted them as a “people’s band”. He designed controversial album covers, composed bombastic sleeve notes that described the group as “Three who belong to the New Culture, setting forth on its final voyage through a dying world”, and booked the main billboard in Times Square to promote their latest album. His choice of “render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s” as an advertising slogan for the E Pluribus Funk album brought condemnation from the New York archdiocese. The rock establishment was appalled. Its house organ Rolling Stone called Grand Funk Railroad the world’s worst rock band and accused Knight of “apparently innate gaucheness”. The late Greg Shaw (obituary, October 29) said, “from the beginning, Grand Funk was sold over the counter like so much raw meat”. Other critics were less dismissive. Lester Bangs wrote that what made them a phenomenon was “the combination of Knight’s promotional acumen and the band’s extraordinary relationship with its audience”. Amid suspicions of financial mismanagement, in 1972 the group sacked their manager. Lawsuits followed. Knight claimed $60m, and incidents such as the impounding of the group’s equipment shortly before a concert followed. Eventually, Knight was paid off with a reported $15m. Now called Grand Funk, the group eventually disbanded in 1976, but subsequently re-formed in the mid-1990s and has toured the US occasionally ever since. Knight continued, unsuccessfully, producing Bloodrock, the Jayhawkers and Mom’s Apple Pie for the Brown Bagcompany he had set up with United Artists. In 1974, he had left the music business, having turned down the chance to manage a new band, Kiss, finding their transvestite outfits too much of a challenge. He later admitted that this was a mistake. He was said to have squandered much of his Grand Funk Railroad pay-off on such items as a personal jet and racing cars. He lived in Connecticut and Michigan before moving to Arizona after joining a witness protection programme as a result of giving evidence in a drugs case. At the time of his death, he was sharing an apartment with his daughter in Temple, Texas. Police said that Knight was shot by his daughter’s boyfriend after intervening in a quarrel between the couple.
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frenchie
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Posted: November 18 2004 at 13:42 |
grand funk railroad have fans???
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The Worthless Recluse
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goose
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Posted: November 18 2004 at 14:13 |
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Dick Heath
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Posted: November 18 2004 at 15:44 |
The live version of Closer To Home ain't bad - but nothing else is really attention grabbing - and alas there is a dreadful fade in my version of Closer To Home - which surely they could have sorted for the CD - spoilt for halfpenny's worth of tar.....
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gdub411
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Posted: November 18 2004 at 15:45 |
GFR weren't so bad. Admittedly they were a simple, straight forward, hard rocking ,never took themselves too seriously,fun band but that doesn't mean one cannot appreciate them. Are we so smug and elitist in our thinking that we are incapable of liking something that was done for the sheer entertainment of their listeners? At the very least one would have to admit they were excellent showmen. Must we always complicate things?
I say rock on GFR and RIP to Terry Knight! 
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Carl floyd fan
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Posted: November 18 2004 at 17:03 |
GFR was good pure rock. Things don't always need to be complicated, sometimes less is more.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 18 2004 at 23:36 |
Carl Floyd Fan wrote:
GFR was good pure rock. Things don't always need to be complicated, sometimes less is more. |
Agree with that CFF, Grand Funk is one of my favorite bands, specially one of their least famous albums "Phoenix", great keyboards and guitar, political oriented lyrics and a decent drummer.
Not everything has to be complex in order to be good.
Iván
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Jim Garten
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Posted: November 19 2004 at 03:10 |
Mark Farner is no Steve Hackett, but he could peal off a good riff with the best of 'em - personal favorite: the live cover version of 'Gimme Shelter'.
Remember - their last album ('Good Music, Great Playin')was produced by Frank Zappa.
But are Grank Funk Railroad prog rock.......hmmmm, I feel a debate coming on.
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gdub411
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Posted: November 19 2004 at 15:53 |
[ But are Grank Funk Railroad prog rock.......hmmmm, I feel a debate coming on. [/QUOTE]
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Garion81
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Posted: November 19 2004 at 16:11 |
Jim Garten wrote:
But are Grank Funk Railroad prog rock.......hmmmm, I feel a debate coming on. |
No Way!!!! But I know a number of "prog" bands that could use Mark Farners vocals.
Simple music but good. Which is better than bad complex music or bad simple music.
Buy my new book
Understatements for Dummies 
Edited by Garion81
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Posted: November 19 2004 at 21:55 |
I worship the bass playing on this record:
Man! I've never heard a more bottom'n powerful bass than on this record:

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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 20 2004 at 00:12 |
Agree with Jim, Gdub and Garion, Grand Funk Railroad is far from being a prog' or even prog related band, but Who cares? They played pure rock & Roll.
OK, maybe there's some relation with Prog Rock, Todd Rundgren produced We're an American Band, but that's not enough 
Mark Farner had a hell of a voice and Mel Schacher was a pretty good bassist, the weakest point of the band was Don Brewer, who was adecent drummer but overplayed the metals, if you listen carefully any album of the band you'll notice he hardly touches the bass drums, but that was another era.
This is the album I worship:

Specially because Craig Frost and his powerfull organ joined the band and the band had a psychodelic approach in some songs (Even when released in 1972 when Psychedelia was dying, sadly it was only released in a very expensive Japanese version for which I paid 45 hard earned bucks.
Iván
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: November 20 2004 at 02:08 |
I played the crap out of The Grand funk Live Album when I was a kid which drove my parents and sisters insane.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: November 21 2004 at 14:26 |
They were frustratingly inconsistent, but every now and then they came up with a gem. They did a track called "Loneliness" which was magnificent.
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