music for all the people?

Vi0LaToR wrote: well,there are few people that listen this kind of music than other kind in the world.the question is... is this music listen by a different people in the society,not commercial people? or could all the people  listen this music with time and patience? this is because only one of all my friends likes this kind of music :S and he(only one) doesnt like yes or genesis for example, but he likes pink floyd that is more easy to listen. what do you think about this?

Maybe, because of my age I have several friends listening to prog.

One likes only Genesis, Yes , Focus and Gong.

He finds KC, Pink Floyd, ELP, VDGG hard to get into.

Another one don't like Genesis and Gentle Giant. He prefer KC and Yes, because he said that GG and Genesis are boring.

I like them all

If you try to write a song that pleases everyone what you end up with is .... Eurovision.

I saw a while ago they tried to work out a picture that everyone would like. It ended up being a blue picture with a boat in it - something non-offensive that everyone can enjoy.

Peter wrote: Real prog (ie, the classic stuff) will never have mainstream popularity. As with classical, Shakespeare, fine art, gourmet food, etc, it's just too complex for the masses (especially in today's prevailing short attention span, "instant gratification" climate), and not radio format-friendly. To become widely popular, it would have to radically change in sound and format... voila: we have so-called "prog metal," Radiohead, et al....

Adding something to everything said, I think it is bad to the record companies that such a complex genre become mainstrem. When a new trend starts, it is easier to find tons of punk rock, surf rock, electro-pop, new metal than tons of progressive rock bands. As these trends don't last as much as 2 years, the investiments on equipment, musical training, production, orchestras, session musicians would be high. It is cheaper to give 2 hours to three 18-year-boys that play only 3 chords and make a success.
For the masses, it doesn't matter because in the past to achieve success the band should be loved for lots of people. Nowadays the bands are released as a huge success and then people start to like them because they are a success. Doesn't make sense, does it?  Unfortunately this is the reality.

there are all different types of music collectors just like there all different types of art collectors

you have people that buy paintings of light houses, posters of Dali, paintings of celebrities, and so on, but you do have a few people out there that know what really good art is or something that hits them the hardest, so they pick it up, they know they arent just buying it because maybe it would look good above the fireplace, but because its value is greater than ones initial glance at it

i dont want to prog to be popular, because when is popular opinion ever the right opinion, honestly

i do wish I had more friends that just wanted to get baked and listen to prog all day, but oh well

Aaron

 

Peter wrote: Real prog (ie, the classic stuff) will never have mainstream popularity. As with classical, Shakespeare, fine art, gourmet food, etc, it's just too complex for the masses

 I'll have to only partially agree on this one. It's not to complex for the masses but rather too specialized.  We proggers have picked out the things we like best in music and kind of cut out all other things. Often we make the snobbish mistake of saying it's better than other types of music and then rationalize it by throwing around terms like time signature, virtuosity, and art. In the end though it is just specialized to what we like. Anytime you start to specialize something your gonna loose admirers.

Flyingsod wrote: Peter wrote: Real prog (ie, the classic stuff) will never have mainstream popularity. As with classical, Shakespeare, fine art, gourmet food, etc, it's just too complex for the masses  I'll have to only partially agree on this one. It's not to complex for the masses but rather too specialized.  We proggers have picked out the things we like best in music and kind of cut out all other things. Often we make the snobbish mistake of saying it's better than other types of music and then rationalize it by throwing around terms like time signature, virtuosity, and art. In the end though it is just specialized to what we like. Anytime you start to specialize something your gonna loose admirers.

i disagree

to say Close to the Edge by Yes is better than Metallica's Black Album which is better than Linkin Parks "insert album here" which is better than Britney Spears' something something album, is 100 percent correct

Music is Art, Art can be measured

only when an artists integrity is not crapped on by the music they put out can you begin to specialize

i think i mean all that

Aaron