Is Roger Waters a Genius ?

Blacksword wrote: Very talented musician, and song writer. Genius? No. Sorry to be cynical but no one in rock or pop is a 'genius' IMO. Mozart was a genius.

Sorry to be cynical,Blacky?

What you say is bizaare in the extreme! The sun is yellow so in my opinion a banana isnt???????

Dogs (Waters, Gilmour)

You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real need.
You gotta sleep on your toes, and when you're on the street,
You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed.
And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight,
You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking.

And after a while, you can work on points for style.
Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,
A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.
You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,
So that when they turn their backs on you,
You'll get the chance to put the knife in.

You gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder.
You know it's going to get harder, and harder, and harder as you
get older.
And in the end you'll pack up and fly down south,
Hide your head in the sand,
Just another sad old man,
All alone and dying of cancer.

And when you loose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sown.
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone.
And it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw
around.
So have a good drown, as you go down, all alone,
Dragged down by the stone.

I gotta admit that I'm a little bit confused.
Sometimes it seems to me as if I'm just being used.
Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise.
If I don't stand my own ground, how can I find my way out of this
maze?

Deaf, dumb, and blind, you just keep on pretending
That everyone's expendable and no-one has a real friend.
And it seems to you the thing to do would be to isolate the winner
And everything's done under the sun,
And you believe at heart, everyone's a killer.

Who was born in a house full of pain.
Who was trained not to spit in the fan.
Who was told what to do by the man.
Who was broken by trained personnel.
Who was fitted with collar and chain.
Who was given a pat on the back.
Who was breaking away from the pack.
Who was only a stranger at home.
Who was ground down in the end.
Who was found dead on the phone.
Who was dragged down by the stone.

Now Decide If he's a genius

I love Pink Floyd and I have plenty of respect for Waters' talent.

Genius? If we only knew his IQ...according to MENSA, there's a lot of geniuses running around, including Geena Davis and some model who posed for Penthouse (and, as Clockwork Orange's little Alex liked to say, "your humble narrator"  who, unlike Waters, still hasn't managed to do anything very impressive with his life...). I'm sure Roger would welcome being recognized at the same level as Marilyn Vos Savant, an advice columnist so banal she makes "Dear Abby" seem gripping and poignant by comparison.

And going by music journalists, there's a heck of a lot of groundbreaking, visionary geniuses on MTV. I especially remember hearing Madonna being called a genius many times, and more recently Eminem, Alicia Keys, and (gasp) Mariah Carey (although that was probably only because she became famous after doing a ripoff of a song with the word 'genius' in the title. Music journalists tend to seize on that sort of thing).

Nah, forget these silly accolades. Roger has managed to write a lot of extremely meaningful music (as well as "Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking" ) and been a guiding member of a beloved, classic band. Calling him a genius just begs for odious comparisons.