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lucas
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Topic: Best Saga album Posted: February 20 2004 at 17:11 |
All these records are great. But 'Behaviour' is my favourite : bombast, superb melodies, expressive voice, in brief a prog-album that even ears of non-prog music fans can stand. 'Heads or tales' deals also with bombastic elements but it is more mechanical, an album that displays the great skills of the drummer : Steve Negus. Good polls !
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Sweetnighter
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Posted: April 23 2005 at 21:20 |
I'm reviving this year old thread because I just got Saga's "World's
Apart" on vinyl today for three bucks. Everywhere I go to read I see
"Saga is prog, saga is prog," but unless i'm crazy it sounds... well...
80s pop-rock to me... albeit veeeery good 80s pop-rock! Maybe i need to
hear their earlier material... would somebody care to have a say?
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lucas
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Posted: April 23 2005 at 21:43 |
Sweetnighter wrote:
I'm reviving this year old thread because I just got Saga's "World's Apart" on vinyl today for three bucks. Everywhere I go to read I see "Saga is prog, saga is prog," but unless i'm crazy it sounds... well... 80s pop-rock to me... albeit veeeery good 80s pop-rock! Maybe i need to hear their earlier material... would somebody care to have a say? |
Genesis, ELP, Yes and Rush sounded also "good 80s pop rock" in these days...
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Posted: April 23 2005 at 22:23 |
all their albums are excellent until the disappointing behaviour.
man! they are really prog: much prog than asia. just listen it a couples of times again, and you'll say that i'm right!
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[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>
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Sweetnighter
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Posted: April 23 2005 at 23:55 |
lucas wrote:
Sweetnighter wrote:
I'm reviving this year old thread
because I just got Saga's "World's Apart" on vinyl today for three
bucks. Everywhere I go to read I see "Saga is prog, saga is prog," but
unless i'm crazy it sounds... well... 80s pop-rock to me... albeit
veeeery good 80s pop-rock! Maybe i need to hear their earlier
material... would somebody care to have a say? |
Genesis, ELP, Yes and Rush sounded also "good 80s pop rock" in these days... |
ELP?
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I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die.
"Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend
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lucas
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Posted: April 24 2005 at 04:21 |
Sweetnighter wrote:
lucas wrote:
Sweetnighter wrote:
I'm reviving this year old thread because I just got Saga's "World's Apart" on vinyl today for three bucks. Everywhere I go to read I see "Saga is prog, saga is prog," but unless i'm crazy it sounds... well... 80s pop-rock to me... albeit veeeery good 80s pop-rock! Maybe i need to hear their earlier material... would somebody care to have a say? |
Genesis, ELP, Yes and Rush sounded also "good 80s pop rock" in these days...
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ELP?
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Sorry, I should have said 3 and ELPowell.
And at the time I launched this poll, I wasn't aware of some other great Saga albums :
The beginner's guide to throwing shapes
The security of illusion
generation 13
network
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Miaugion
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Posted: April 24 2005 at 06:52 |
1) Silent Knight
2) Worlds Apart
3) Heads or Tales
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ha ha, charade you are
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RicochetPeter
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Posted: April 24 2005 at 07:21 |
1) Heads or Tales
2) Behaviour
no 3) for me, the rest would be a sampler of the albums. That's how much tastes differ, huh...
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Fishy
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Posted: April 24 2005 at 07:22 |
1) Worlds apart
2) Silent knight
3) Images at twilight
4) Saga
5) Heads or tales
6) Generation 13
7) Behaviour
8) Beginners guide to throwing shapes
9) Network
10) the security of illusion
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Posted: April 24 2005 at 07:36 |
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Cesar Inca
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Posted: April 26 2005 at 22:17 |
Fishy wrote:
1) Worlds apart
2) Silent knight
3) Images at twilight
4) Saga
5) Heads or tales
6) Generation 13
7) Behaviour
8) Beginners guide to throwing shapes
9) Network
10) the security of illusion
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Actually, "Generation 13" is my all-time Saga favourite album, and therefore, my 90s-00s Saga favourite album. Before then, "Silent Knight" stands as their masterpiece of old times past.
— No sooner had Scottish-born keyboardsman Jim Gilmour entered the Saga ranks than the band became capable of achieving their finest prog hour, developing their mixture of symphonic/pomp/hard rock/new wave and taking it to its most grandiouse level. 'Silent Knight' is a definitive cornerstone in their career (for many of us, one of their top albums), thanks in no small degree to the newcomer keyboardsman. A master of Mini and Poly Moogs, he created immense keyboard textures and well crafted solos and harmonies with good taste and finesse, complementing perfectly both Ian Crichton's energetic guitar playing and Negus's superb drumming. For now, Sadler can rely mostly on chords and layers while he sings, while a very confident Jim Crichton (the other Jim and the other Crichton) can display his usual solid bass playing and amplify the volume on his Moog Bass synth. The opening number 'Don't Be Late' is an absolute classic of Saga's repertoire, and so is the stunning, sombre closure 'Careful Where You Step' (perhaps my all time fave Saga piece!!). In between, you can find sheer symph prog (the waltz-like 'Time to Go'), prog with eerie textures and hard rocking moments combined ('Too Much to Lose', 'What's It Gonna Be?'), prog with a touch of R'n'B ('Help Me Out'), and arena rock oriented prog with a poppish twist ('Compromise' - it's unbelievable, but true, a Moog can actually rock as hard as Blackmore's or Moore's guitars!! a discovery made in JG's Twilight Zone). Well, all things considered, though I may have highlighted Jim Gilmour's role on this one, 'Silent Knight' is very clearly, and most of all, a very inspired, bombastic band effort. The musicians' skills, though delivered in a neckbreaking manner, are basically ruled by the particular challenges of each individual composition. The sound production is also great. All in all, a very impressive album from a band that had just achieved its own maturity.. and was enjoying it unabashedly!!
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Valarius
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 03:37 |
Images At Twilight for me. Not really into Saga that much though.
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Posted: April 27 2005 at 08:23 |
Behaviour does it for me every time. A wonderful album and the drumming on it is simple but sublime.
A real 'songs' album.
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Cesar Inca
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Posted: April 28 2005 at 09:30 |
I don't really enjoy the late 80s SAGA albums: it's just a pop "pervesion" similar to that of Genesis' 81-86 albums.
But I agree on the Negus thing: no matter how mediocre or boring a SAGA album may be, Negus' drumming is always exciting and precise.
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Posted: April 28 2005 at 11:32 |
After Silent knight, they lost it. To commercial and ordinary.
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