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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 14 2005 at 09:18

A number of us old timers were baffled when both Rush and Pink Floyd found their way on to Channel Four prog top 10 groups not so long ago. It wasn't America heard DSOTM that the band was called prog, as opposed to psychedelia. So as to being more progressive than other bands, well until they over got over the loss of Syd Barrett it was felt they spent half a decade navel grazing, and progressing by a gnat's cock l

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Originally posted by viperjr98 viperjr98 wrote:

I don't know.  Maybe I just don't get it.  I've tried to like Pink Floyd, I really have.  But to me it's just an occasional good rock song followed by strange spaciness.  I've never done drugs.  Would it help?

Before I found progarchives, I never considered Pink Floyd prog.  All the other classics -- Yes, Genesis, Rush, etc. -- to me that's prog.  But here it seems that half of everyone are Pink Floyd nuts.  Are there others like me who just don't get them or am I stranded on my own island?  Does it help to be English, perhaps?

What is it about Pink Floyd that makes them prog?

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2005 at 03:27
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

A number of us old timers were baffled when both Rush and Pink Floyd found their way on to Channel Four prog top 10 groups not so long ago. It wasn't America heard DSOTM that the band was called prog, as opposed to psychedelia. So as to being more progressive than other bands, well until they over got over the loss of Syd Barrett it was felt they spent half a decade navel grazing, and progressing by a gnat's cock l

With historical restrospect, that seems like nonsense:

"Saucerful..." was a kind of "Piper 2", but the writing does show marked progression - the title track alone is practically pure Prog Rock, not just a psychedelic jam.

"Ummagumma" represents a major leap forward in terms of the experimentation on sides 3 and 4 - no matter what the band think about it now, I hear it as genius - pure stream of consciousness music (albeit with a smorgasbord of ego...).

"Atom Heart Mother" is very different again - I'm not totally convinced by it, but there are deliberate attempts to do different things and use new sonic soundscapes.

"Meddle" is a pure masterpiece - especially "Echoes", and a stunning progression from the <"Ummagumma" style.

Then there's the "Live at Pompeii" film, which I still find to be a stunning live performance to this day, not to mention "More", "Zabrieski Point" and "Obscured by Clouds"... OK, I did mention them, and they are all somewhat sub-par - but clearly show what the band were capable of when they were only ticking over. I generally don't count them as "bona fide" Floyd albums since they're sound tracks. They were handy doodle pads for later albums - and an interesting insight into the way they changed their collective approaches to composition.

Which brings us to "DSOTM" - which, of course, was performed live many, many months before the band hit the studio.

But that's just a retrospective perspective...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2005 at 04:49
Why are the Floyds level of progitude always qestioned?????? Sure they're aren't quite as prog as early Genesis and Yes but they are still unmistabably prog. When someone can name me aonther album that uses a Imin/maj7 chord in a major setting then I'll reconsider my  stance on the matter.
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