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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19185 |
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Who dunnit is a bit of an odd duck which is why I said "what were they thinking." However, I don't know if I would say it's awful. It's just not what I would expect from them. It sounds more like an experiment than a proper song.
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Steve Wyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2017 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 2932 |
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This has been up for a month now, and I wanted to say thanks to everyone who responded. I'm very surprised by both how people responded and by how many took the time to do so. I know this album is far down the list of most people's favorites, but the responses indicate that at the very least, the album was listened to and (somewhat) appreciated. There was even a tiny little bit of love for "Who Dunnit?"
Will wonders ever cease?
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29991 |
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Dodo/Lurker ( I prefer it as it is in this edited version)
Keep It Dark Abacab It's the last Genesis album I can take seriously but it's messy and feels like a failed experiment. At least they were still trying for something. After that it was disappointing all the way to CAS. I was rooming with a big Genesis fan at college when Shapes came out and he tried to convince me that was some sort of return to form. I didn't believe it then and still don't.
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mathman0806 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2014 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 6844 |
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That's how I would rate the tracks also. |
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Deadwing ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 05 2005 Status: Offline Points: 464 |
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It's probably the best track in the album, IMO. Pop of the highest quality
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Intruder ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: May 13 2005 Status: Offline Points: 2211 |
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Man on the Corner is classic 80s Genesis - maybe my favorite track from the post-TTWT era. It's the only track I return to the Abacab LP for - the best tracks on the album are done far better on the Three Sides LP.
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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RockHound ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 03 2013 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 664 |
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My favorites are:
Me and Sarah Jane Dodo/Lurker Abacab The only song I don't like is Whodunnit. It's the only Genesis song I zoom right past when it comes up. It's funny, you know...
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20526 |
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Shapes' A-side is on the level of Duke in my appreciation scale... However the flipside is as bad (if not worse) than Invisible Touch and Abacrap. .
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Steve Wyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2017 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 2932 |
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The real problems start with Invisible Touch.
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 5820 |
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I mean, just think about it. And Then They Were Three could've been the perfect way for Banks, Ruthreford and Collins to close the Genesis chapter and continue to make music under a different name. A great mix of the old Genesis sound updated for the new "Hacket-less format" (eg. Down and Out, Snowbound) with some bits announcing what's soon to come (eg. Follow You Follow Me, Scenes from a Night's Dream). |
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Boojieboy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 02 2016 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 664 |
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It's so hard to get into their stuff post-Duke. Now, you could take the best songs from then to the end, and maybe come up with one decent album, but it's a sad to associate the band name with that era. They should have renamed themselves after Hackett left. The Trio, The Three, The Clowns, Banks-Collins-Ruffie, anything. LOL
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Abacab (the song)
Abacrap (the rest of the album) I do agree that the aborted suite might have made the album much more interesting, though. It makes the exploded pieces more interesting tied together, much like the aborted Duke suite would've made Dike a better album .
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let's just stay above the moral melee
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Deadwing ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: July 05 2005 Status: Offline Points: 464 |
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Great: - Me and Sarah Jane - Dodo/Lurker - Man on the CornerGood: - Abacab (live version is fantastic though lol)Average: - Keep It Dark - Like it or not - Another RecordBad: - No Reply at All Awful: - Who dunnit? |
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Prog-jester ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5919 |
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Dodo/Lurker
Abacab Man on the Corner |
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Dodo/Lurker - 10/10 Me and Sarah Jane - 9/10 Keep It Dark - 8.5/10 Abacab - 8.5/10 Who Dunnit? - 7/10 No Reply at All - 7/10 Man on the Corner 6.5/10 Like It or Not - 6/10 Another Record - 6/10
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I always thought Duke and Abacab straddled the fence of is it Prog or Pop Rock. For me, Duke just falls on the side of Prog whereas Abacab falls on the side of Pop Rock. I like both albums.
Dodo/ Lurker is a great track. Abacab and Keep it Dark are very good tracks. Man on the Corner, Me and Sarah Jane and No Reply at All are good tracks. Take the horns out of No Reply at All and replace them with Bank's keyboards and there would probably be more love for that song in the Prog community. Another Record is meh. Like it or Not, I don't like. Who Dunnit? is terrible. One of the worst songs Genesis recorded. I wish the second side would have been Man on the Corner and the Dodo/ Lurker suite, which would have included the excellent Naminanu leading off the suite before it segues into Dodo with Submarine following Lurker and ending the suite (as well as providing the answer to the riddle found in Lurker). That suite would be 15+ minutes long and with Man on the Corner would have made side two about 20 minutes long. That suite would have firmly put the Abacab album in the Prog camp. |
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Excellent songs that rank among their best from this era: 1. Dodo / Lurker 2. Me And Sarah Jane Great listens: 3. No Reply At All 4. Abacab 5. Like It Or Not 6. Man On The Corner Not exactly essential but not bad: 7. Who Dunnit? 8. Another Record Could do without: 9. Keep It Dark
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19185 |
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Great:
Abacab (one of their best from the 80s imo) Dodo / Lurker Very Good: Man on the Corner No Reply at All Good: Me and Sarah Jane Like It Or Not Keep It Dark Ok: Another Record What were they thinking: Who Dunnit? |
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Jeffro ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2014 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2201 |
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The only songs I would willingly choose to listen to these days are
Dodo/Lurker (great) Abacab (great) Keep It Dark (good) No Reply At All (good....okay good is subjective but I like it. Sue me) The rest are forgettable for me. This, however, is very cool. it's a what if of course. Edited by Jeffro - June 15 2024 at 05:33 |
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