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    Posted: December 30 2023 at 08:05



In 1976, after the disbanding of ESCARCHA, vocalist Saul Blanch formed another hard rock outfit increasing the Zepp influence, that is the foursome PLUS, including Julio Saez Guitar & Vocals, Hugo Racca Bass & Vocals, and Horacio "Cacho" Darías Drums. By then, excepting EL RELOJ or VOX DEI, there was hardly another heavy rock act left in Argentina.
Their debut album No Pisar el Infinito saw the light of day in 1976, under the label TK. Their style was deemed as raw and visceral, and one of that year revelations in the local scene.
They signed a contract with RCA for the sophomore, titled simply Plus, but widely known as Melancólica Muchacha among fans, after the eleven minutes track. Meticulously produced, this 1978 album includes guests appearances by Celeste Carballo in vocal harmonies and classically trained violinist Fernando Suárez Paz, from Astor Piazzolla's quintet. By the end of the year, guitarist Julio Saenz left, being replaced by León Vanella and the band turned to a more basic approach with their third and last LP, Escuela de Rock and Roll, in 1981, deemed as rhythm and blues tinged. Soon after that, they disbanded for good.
Julio Saez, Hugo Racca and Cacho D'arias went to join DR. SILVA, and Saul Blanch, became lead singer with RATA BLANCA, only for their 1988 debut. Hugo Racca released a solo effort and passed away in 1998, whilst Julio Saez became manager and guitarist for Indio Solari. In 2016 passed away Cacho Darias.


Their 2nd album, Plus (1978)




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-I think what you mean is suggesting Plus for Heavy Prog?
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heavy prog definitely 
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I'd put it in the "prog blues" category if there was such a thing on PA.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I'd put it in the "prog blues" category if there was such a thing on PA.

Heavy-prog is progressive hard rock, hard rock had its roots in blues, so... LOL
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I'd put it in the "prog blues" category if there was such a thing on PA.


Heavy-prog is progressive hard rock, hard rock had its roots in blues, so... LOL

And blues had it roots in proto-blues and so on and so on. If you're gonna label stuff that way, then you'd realize Robert Leroy Johnson is in fact a Heavy Prog artist. :P And also, that Leoš Janáček (ELP) or I dunno, even Bach (Genesis) should be added to Symphonic Prog. ;)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Cristi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2023 at 12:10
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I'd put it in the "prog blues" category if there was such a thing on PA.


Heavy-prog is progressive hard rock, hard rock had its roots in blues, so... LOL

And blues had it roots in proto-blues and so on and so on. If you're gonna label stuff that way, then you'd realize Robert Leroy Johnson is in fact a Heavy Prog artist. :P And also, that Leoš Janáček (ELP) or I dunno, even Bach (Genesis) should be added to Symphonic Prog. ;)

I was kidding, obviously, that's why I used the LOL emoticon. 

Let me say it again. Geek
The heavy prog team should look into this band. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeEnRegalia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 30 2023 at 12:16
Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I'd put it in the "prog blues" category if there was such a thing on PA.

It exists at AP, but only because users can freely assign prog status and genre independently. Remarkably, there is currently exactly one album that sort of qualifies: 


But even then "Blues" is specified as a secondary genre (to RIO). So no, "prog blues" is not a "thing" at AP either. Prog and Blues are mutually exclusive - the more progressive a piece of music is, the less Blues it is. FWIW, many progressive bands incorporate Blues into their music, but usually only as an influence.
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Following Saperlipopette! and Cristi opinions, I'm renaming to Heavy-Prog. "Progressive Hard Rock" sounds like a neat description of this music to me, so, let's get on with that.
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Added the debut release to AP: https://awesomeprog.com/releases/67919
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Added their other releases as well ... RYM only tags the second release as progressive. 
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I am going to sent this to the team, see if anyone hear some prog rock here.
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