The first suite - Progressive Rock Music Forum

Something else is, if not keeping strictly to Rock, I think, it'll get impossible.

quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond

David_D wrote:

jamesbaldwin wrote:

So I asked myself: who was the first to have the courage to fill an entire side of an LP with one song? I called these songs suites. Better to call them side-long songs? OK, let's call them side-long songs.

Maybe you should update your OP, Lorenzo. Smile

O my God....

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According to LAST FM, Hansson & Karlsson's REX was released January 1st, 1968

Otherwise there is no other info about it.

https://www.last.fm/music/Hansson+&+Karlsson/Rex

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^ maybe not. The date could be wrong and it seems that album could be a live album

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^ i mentioned jazz and ragas way back and he said this is for rock and folk only

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^ folk rock

there are countless jazz, classical and ethnic albums that count as well as electronic music

i didn't make the thread. just telling ya what's been discussed :)

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O my God...

we should finish the discussion here.... with the definitive results.

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Hi,

My thoughts are that the discussion here is limited to too much Anglo-American music, and not enough to the other Europeans and others around the globe.

Both America and England, have committed to a commercial style for music that is less represented by ideas from classical music, than otherwise. We might consider that some jazz things do fit, but when you see jazz in 4 minute segments, as songs, then you wonder where "jazz" really went.

If we include, and look at, a lot of Europeans, it's hard to believe that ANGE, AD2, LE ORME, BANCO and others did not create true "suites" with their music, and them not being mentioned, is kinda sad ... many of these were far more into the ideas involved here than otherwise, but instead, we look at material that was "song" oriented, as so much of the pieces mentioned were.

Iron Butterfly's effort is nice, but I'm not sure that it was quite intended to be a "suite", and it really fit a lot more as a "trip" even though today we look at it as a blues/whatever thing, and not a "trip" ... hearing it today, I'm not sure that today's audience knows how to close their eyes and enjoy the music, instead of cheering out loud for the metal guitar and the gruff voice (or then hear a comment like too much meandering and wondering about nothing -- like metal doesn't!) ... and a "suite" is meant for people that can "fly" and "trip" ... not to suggest that many metalizers can't trip, but I don't find the long things by DT and others anywhere near the definition of a "suite", other than a pair or trio of songs put together as different parts of a thought or two.

I think we need to be more inclusive, if we're going to discuss this ... we're mentioning too many commercially designed and known material to the mix. I would venture to say that even Frank Zappa is one of the few that fits, and he would know what a "suite" is, and give you a lesson with his baton!

Edited by moshkito - May 10 2023 at 06:19

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