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Pafnutij
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 01:08 |
Gentle Ronnie wrote:
I'd rather quote George Bush than Yngwie Malmsteen. I mean, seriously, who values that rat's opinion about... anything?
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I just put that quote in cause it was funny. And Malmsteen IS a good musician - just an uncreative and close-minded one.
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Gentle Ronnie
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 08:30 |
I always thought being a good musician was all about creativity and songwriting.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 09:04 |
Gentle Ronnie wrote:
I always thought being a good musician was all about creativity and songwriting. |
And what about classical musicians - virtuosos who ONLY perform music which was not written by them and which allows little (if any) own contributions?
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goose
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 09:17 |
Practically all of Bach's, Mozart's and Beethoven's pieces for virtuosos invite improvisation. Even when the notes themselves aren't improvised there's nearly always a clear difference between any two performers, and often even any two performances
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Manunkind
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 13:21 |
Malmsteen has excellent technique and sound... and that's about it. His solos are fun the first time you hear them, but when you realize they hardly change...
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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Certif1ed
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 15:45 |
goose wrote:
Practically all of Bach's, Mozart's and Beethoven's pieces for virtuosos invite improvisation. Even when the notes themselves aren't improvised there's nearly always a clear difference between any two performers, and often even any two performances  |
I would guess that's because all three were maestro improvisers themselves, and the score is just a refinement or simplification of what they themselves would actually play.
The main differences between them and Mr Malmsteen is that Malmsteen's improvisatory skills (by comparison) are completely non-existent, and Mr Malmsteen cannot compose for toffee. Although he can be hugely entertaining, of course.
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Manunkind
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 16:00 |
Mmm... toffee
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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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John Gargo
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Posted: November 16 2005 at 21:05 |
I don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread, but PESTILENCE deserves a place in this website as well, given the progressive nature of their last two albums and the shared band members with ATHEIST.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 04:03 |
John Gargo wrote:
I don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread, but PESTILENCE deserves a place in this website as well, given the progressive nature of their last two albums and the shared band members with ATHEIST. |
You should post that in the "Organizing Prog Metal" thread ...
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John Gargo
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Posted: November 17 2005 at 09:33 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
John Gargo wrote:
I don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread, but PESTILENCE deserves a place in this website as well, given the progressive nature of their last two albums and the shared band members with ATHEIST. |
You should post that in the "Organizing Prog Metal" thread ...
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Sorry, I see how many pages and pages of responses that one has and I just stear clear of it! 
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Gentle Ronnie
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 15:10 |
Pestilence should be added, I think, but then again, if Death still is not here, I'm not sure...
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