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verslibre 
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The debut by Montrose is one of the best hard rock records of the decade. Fo sho!
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Posted: October 09 2020 at 21:15 |
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Personally i use it. It has a better ring than hard rock sometimes. I agree that it works for those crossover bands that range from hard rock to heavy metal. Sort of the grey area in between.
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I do too(sometimes at least). I'm glad to see I'm not the only one although we definitely seem to be in the minority. Definitely a grey area and I'm rather surprised that some of the other music people on here can't see it(or hear it). For example I've been listening to the early Van Halen albums lately(to honor the late great EVH) and for me I don't really hear hard rock. I hear something beyond it. Something almost metallish(actually it was at least metallish and in fact wikipedia classifies them as both heavy metal and hard rock). Someone on here implied that it can't be metal because it would have to be as heavy as Black Sabbath. That's nonsense. In that case everything in the eighties couldn't be metal if it's not as heavy as slayer and then iron maiden wouldn't be HM. Lot's of stuff that is considered metal was not as heavy as BS even in the eighties. Regardless, I'm not saying VH were metal but they came pretty close in the early days(imo)and were definitely heavier than standard hard rock. To call something like Queen's "stone cold crazy" just plain old hard rock is a bit off the mark too.
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Posted: October 11 2020 at 15:01 |
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siLLy puPPy
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I do too(sometimes at least). I'm glad to see I'm not the only one
although we definitely seem to be in the minority. Definitely a grey
area and I'm rather surprised that some of the other music people on
here can't see it(or hear it). For example I've been listening to the
early Van Halen albums lately(to honor the late great EVH) and for me I
don't really hear hard rock. I hear something beyond it. Something
almost metallish(actually it was at least metallish and in fact
wikipedia classifies them as both heavy metal and hard rock). Someone on
here implied that it can't be metal because it would have to be as
heavy as Black Sabbath. That's nonsense. In that case everything in the
eighties couldn't be metal if it's not as heavy as slayer and then iron
maiden wouldn't be HM. Lot's of stuff that is considered metal was not
as heavy as BS even in the eighties. Regardless, I'm not saying VH were
metal but they came pretty close in the early days(imo)and were
definitely heavier than standard hard rock. To call something like
Queen's "stone cold crazy" just plain old hard rock is a bit off the
mark too.
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Posted: October 11 2020 at 18:33 |
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Individual songs, or several songs in a catalog for me don't define an overall tone of a band. Every rock band has their hard heavy metal moments as well soft rock pop moments.
There certainly is an argument to be made to define each album on its own merits, but I would not want to be a part of that process. If an album has 10 songs and 7 of them are heavy metal and 3 of them are soft rock ballads....then what?? The next argument will be each song......bah!! Hard Rock will live forever!
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Posted: October 11 2020 at 18:54 |
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Wait, Catcher! That's exactly it!
"Heavy Metal" + "Soft Rock" ÷ "Hard Rock" = Heavy Rock!  Whew. Glad that's over. |
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Posted: October 11 2020 at 18:57 |
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Dude...ur whacked
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verslibre
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Posted: October 11 2020 at 18:58 |
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Somebody call Rolling Stone!
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Posted: October 11 2020 at 21:26 |
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Ha ha. You just described Queen and Led Zeppelin although add folk rock and a bit of art rock/prog rock for Zepp also.
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Posted: October 12 2020 at 02:07 |
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That's a perfect mathematical summary!  That's the kind of maths you can't do on a pocket calculator.
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All your opinion. Stop speaking like you have the final say on Queen and Led Zeppelin.
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Posted: October 12 2020 at 10:14 |
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Good thing my trusty abacus is nearby.
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Posted: October 12 2020 at 10:26 |
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^I'd say:
Heavy rock ---> (hard rock + 1/2 heavy metal) - soft rock That's a nice physics equation for you.
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Posted: October 12 2020 at 10:47 |
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Physics??? This is rock and roll, baby!!
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Posted: October 12 2020 at 11:05 |
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You have a point... physics + rock'n'roll --> ???
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