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JD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37232 |
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I've said that I find this ABBA song Proggy, as has at least one more person, but I wouldn't claim that ABBA is a Prog band. |
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FatherChristmas ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 30 2020 Location: LandofGrey&Pink Status: Offline Points: 2477 |
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The Visitors by ABBA is a slightly proggy song as well but I'd never say they were (in general) anywhere prog.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 37232 |
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Agreed. I never noticed anyone seriously suggesting that ABBA was a prog band, but merely that the notion that ABBA has nothing to do with Prog is not as straight-forward as some have claimed.That's often been my argument when people have suggested acts that have been ridiculed by others -- Parliament/ Funkadelic comes to mind. I think Parliamant's debut Osmium has prog-relatedness as does music in various albums by Funkadelic. I think a lot of suggestions have more merit than some give, sometimes because they don't know enough of the music and are drawing different associations (our Prog categories do cover a lot of musical ground). It doesn't mean that such stuff should be added, however. I commonly take issue with absolutist type thinking, and commonly prefer an agnostic and non binary, non-black and white way of thinking about things. The most ridiculous addition to PA was William Hung, but that was done on April 1, 2007. It is still the best April Fools Day joke at PA in my time here -- in fact it's the only one that I can recall. I wrote a review for a Willam Hung album I made up called Hung Like a Horse based on his Hung For the Holidays album. Edited by Logan - July 01 2020 at 12:27 |
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Prog-jester ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5909 |
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the key changes and odd time signatures combination alone make this one prog:
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15149 |
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A Dutch guy claimed that, Kinglake or something, and I think he got one other person agreeing. Anyway, I like all three mentioned or linked Abba songs; actually on my Vortexbox I have a collection of Abba songs that I love, and the number has grown surprisingly big over the years. I wrote earlier that the word prog and the borderline prog/non-prog doesn't mean much to me. I should add that I believe genre delimitations are often as much about the culture and positioning of the fans as about the music itself, for which reason Abba as prog feels very very outlandish to me, much more than could be justified by the music alone. Well, and then it's hard to find any major seventies band that has not in one way or another used any prog element/influence, so if that was a criterion, PA would explode.
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Awesoreno ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 07 2019 Location: Culver City, CA Status: Offline Points: 3079 |
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Yeah that's kind of the point I was trying to make. The styles that many people associate with prog were progressive starting in the late 60s or so, but maybe not as much by the late 70s. So arguably, something that was really experimental, like the stuff, say, Univers Zero was doing in the 80s, could be considered more "progressive" than, say, IQ maybe. Certainly more than Spock's Beard. But we would all (or most of us) would consider them "prog." So that's kind of why it makes more sense to me to delineate. But whatever, I don't really want to get too hung up on it. Personal preferences will prevail.
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