PRONK = PROg - puNK

I wonder would it be possible to include PRONK as a new sub-genre, this is a well known and established genre,and having included it in sub-genres we could break out Pronk bands from the other sub-genres, especially Cardiacs and similar from RIO/Avant.

At the same time, I realise that there is a case for suggesting the inclusion of one of two more Pronk bands on PA, but that is another subject for another thread.

Meanwhile, give Pronk its own rightful home in sub-genres.

https://www.last.fm/tag/pronk/artists

Edited by LAM-SGC - February 29 2020 at 21:11

I think there should be a sub-genre just for the greatest unclassifiable bands and that sub-genre should be called
Zappa-Cardiacs ;)


Actually, you'd be surprised at how many bands there are, when you add together all those that are called Pronk in various places, all those that self-identify as Pronk, all those that used to be Pronk and are now something else, and those that are Pronk in essence but don't use the term and perhaps never get called Pronk e.g. Sleepytime Gorilla Museum.

I could list a load of Pronk bands, but there is no need, as those who know ... know.

But my favs are Cardiacs, SGM, Poisoned Electrick Head, Fugazi, Spratleys Japs, Levitation, Doctor Nerve, Map, (I think alongside Cardiacs, Map was probably the template for Pronk), Sleepy People. I would also say that System of a Down are Pronk. And there was an American band whose name I can't remember, other than it was a two word name and it began with S.

Edited by LAM-SGC - February 29 2020 at 22:01

Not enough bands to create this sub-genre and they're currently already well served by Avant. SGM, Doctor Nerve, Upsilon Acrux (from the lastfm list) aren't punky enough for me, SGM are more Avant Metal than punk, Doctor Nerve have more jazz going on than punk & Upsilon Acrux are rehearsal intensive math rock.

I think we already have more than enough subgenres as it is..so yeah

Btw you guys left out THE band I always think of when the words prog and punk emerge; Here & Now:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c9FWQXzZ6WM

Would The League Of Gentlemen be post-pronk?

LAM-SGC wrote: Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: Not enough bands to create this sub-genre and they're currently already well served by Avant. SGM, Doctor Nerve, Upsilon Acrux (from the lastfm list) aren't punky enough for me, SGM are more Avant Metal than punk, Doctor Nerve have more jazz going on than punk & Upsilon Acrux are rehearsal intensive math rock. Let's just recognize that term and use it for all bands that sound like, or are related to, Cardiacs, no need for a new sub-genre. On reflection, I think you are right. For example, while Doctor Nerve on a quick listen sounds a bit like the pronk band Pinhead Nation, with its herky jerky bits, a longer listen reveals that it isn't punk madness, but early Zappa style fusion rather than punk. As for Map, a great London band in the early 90s, championed by The Organ. They were the epitomy of pronk, they could be in the middle of a fast shouty Cardiacs style song and then suddenly stop all those big bangs and chords and play a keyboard waltz and then speed up the waltz while the band shouted lines in German. I only know of the one 6 track cassette I bought at a gig. I don't think they ever made a CD.