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    Posted: November 18 2019 at 03:56
Last night the BBC televised the first installment of it's new mini series, a period adaptation of HG Well's War of the Worlds.

I had been watching excerpts on YT - in Spanish - over the last month or so. It looks like the UK was the last to televise the show, even though it was made here and funded in part by UK license payers..oh well..

In any case, I'm a huge fan of the novel, and Jeff Wayne's musical version of the story, so I couldn't wait to see an adaptation that was at least a little closer to the book. The two US versions, one from 1953, and the Tom Cruise film from 2005 were both very good films in their own right, but just NOT recognisable as War of the Worlds IMO.

The BBC adaptation is set in Edwardian England, the period that Jeff Waynes version was set in, and although the geographical locations were the same as the book, the characters were more 'up to date' Needless to say the BBC wanted to make it more contemporary, at least thematically so, addressing issues of prejudice and social exclusion, with the two main characters; an unmarried couple living 'in sin' while the male characters estranged wife refused to sign divorce papers. It was a rather pointless subplot, but anyway....

It was pretty good start, with surprising good effects for a BBC show, and some gripping moments.

Anyone else see it, and have any comments on this log awaited adaptation of a classic Sci-Fi tale?

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I saw it last night, it's been a long time since I read the book but I think this is pretty close to it, apart from the "divorce" thing you've mentioned. At least it doesn't have the annoying screaming kid from the Tom Cruise film.
 
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Last night the BBC televised the first installment of it's new mini series, a period adaptation of HG Well's War of the Worlds.
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Haven't seen this yet, but I have to tell you that the original, with Orson Welles is radio history for a real reason, and something that most folks are not going to "listen" to, because we have become so visually tied to things in this day and age. Sad, because the visuals you get from Orson Wells and that troupe are excellent, and I am not sure that any movie will ever be able to bring those images out!

I do want to see this since the ability to do things with video and digital animation has taken a very important and strong turn in the past 10 years ... but those voices of the radio broadcast ... still live in my mind!


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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:


I saw it last night, it's been a long time since I read the book but I think this is pretty close to it, apart from the "divorce" thing you've mentioned. At least it doesn't have the annoying screaming kid from the Tom Cruise film.
 
The only thing that puzzles me is, if Martians wanted to invade earth why would they start with Woking?


I first read the book when I was about 10. Much of the scientific and political content didn't make much sense to me at the time. I must have read it six or so times since then.

Yeah, that kid in the film almost ruined it for me. Some of the action sequences were really good and the effects superb, but the characters were generally hateful as you'd expect in a Spielberg movie I guess.

I think Wells lived near Woking, so chose that as the first landing site because he could describe the locale in great detail, adding realism, I guess. My dad took me to Horsell common as a kid, and I was disappointed that there wasn't any reference to WOTW there, although apparently there is a tripod in Woking town centre, outside a shopping mall.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Last night the BBC televised the first installment of it's new mini series, a period adaptation of HG Well's War of the Worlds.
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Haven't seen this yet, but I have to tell you that the original, with Orson Welles is radio history for a real reason, and something that most folks are not going to "listen" to, because we have become so visually tied to things in this day and age. Sad, because the visuals you get from Orson Wells and that troupe are excellent, and I am not sure that any movie will ever be able to bring those images out!

I do want to see this since the ability to do things with video and digital animation has taken a very important and strong turn in the past 10 years ... but those voices of the radio broadcast ... still live in my mind!



I heard the Orson Wells radio broadcast when I was about 11. BBC Radio 4 broadacst it one night in 1980. You have to remember that when it aired in the 1930's, many people thought it was real, and panicked thinking they were rally being invaded. This gives that version an extra sinister edge. It's a well told story, very dramatic and does evoke quite striking mental images, but I think for someone of my age who grew up with the book and the musical version, the radio broadcast did less for me.
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Normally I would have watched it but I'm getting fed up with the number of re-boots. It can't be any worse than the Spielberg film though. Maybe I will eventually binge it on the I-player.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

The only thing that puzzles me is, if Martians wanted to invade earth why would they start with Woking?

LOL

The '05 film is just bad.   The '53 version is an absolute classic of American sci-fi/horror.   Neither are much like the Wells story.   I'd like to hear the full 1938 radio drama that many people thought was covering a real invasion.   Genius.


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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

The only thing that puzzles me is, if Martians wanted to invade earth why would they start with Woking?

LOL

The '05 film is just bad.   The '53 version is an absolute classic of American sci-fi/horror.   Neither are much like the Wells story.   I'd like to hear the full 1938 radio drama that many people thought was covering a real invasion.   Genius.


I have the Orson Wells 1938 broadcast on CD. It's great David. See if you can find it on youtube if you have the time. 
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Love that song. Justin Hayward is a fantastic singer. On the fist tour of the WOTW stage show he was still performing this, and said at the time that it should only be sung by him as part of the production, but I don't think he performs it now. Not sure who does.
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Here's the Orson Wells broadcast..

Orson Wells WOTW

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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Normally I would have watched it but I'm getting fed up with the number of re-boots. It can't be any worse than the Spielberg film though. Maybe I will eventually binge it on the I-player.

I kinda make the point of ignoring all of the re-boots!
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

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I heard the Orson Wells radio broadcast when I was about 11. BBC Radio 4 broadacst it one night in 1980. You have to remember that when it aired in the 1930's, many people thought it was real, and panicked thinking they were rally being invaded. This gives that version an extra sinister edge. It's a well told story, very dramatic and does evoke quite striking mental images, but I think for someone of my age who grew up with the book and the musical version, the radio broadcast did less for me.

As you get older, though, one of the things that you learn is how to appreciate some things, and how different they are.

That, today, a "radio broadcast" does not grab you, or help you live inside of it, is not a surprise ... in the last 60 years of the 20th century, everything went visual ... and the end result of it? People started to lose the ability to see things, and imagine things ... and even a song wasn't worth it ... they got him killed, instead!

This is the part that is really hard to discuss and try to get listeners on PA to understand ... they can not relate to music that was meaningful and a part of the whole artistic scene 50 years ago ... they have no idea, and the latest review of ITCOTCK ... reviews things as if they were just plain songs out there like any band .... all of the material losing its valuable SOUL to a person that can not see the life of another, and worse, is not interested in the story ... because ITCOTCK is one of the best pictures/screenshots of that time and place around a few concerts in Hyde Park and some other "political" and "artistic" events ... that today get laughed at because the only thing anyone goes to see is the top ten ... most of them do not listen, or can react, to music and material that does not feed their ego ... that would be their thirst for the HIT or top ten song! And damned be the artist that denies them that! 

There were DIFFERENT methods of expression THEN, than there are now ... and you want to subtract your version, and take a look at theirs ... Orson Welles thought that radio was better than theater, or even film, and in a couple of nights brought everyone to their knees, including American Radio that started the idea of making sure stuff was not LIVE, and later the same thing was to bite American Television, that immediately started delaying the LIVE feeds to be able to cut out what they didn't like!

Let's say that the first part of the century, the "art" was radio ... that taught us that diction was important ... as Orson Welles showed ... and next came a very serious Actor's Studio in America and an English/British version of it that gave us the Olivier's and many writers ... these helped take the thrashing out of the radio and put it on the stage ... but 20 years later? It was all about the movies ... and some of them spoke VERY LOUD and shocked us senseless!

Today, none of it means a whole lot ... sadly ... and the understanding of how the media history took place and how people learned things, got lost in the translation ... it's almost like, today, there is so much out there, that everyone is confused! 

And I'm not sure this will change for another 20 to 30 years.
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