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    Posted: April 20 2016 at 17:46
Rand and Kant ar bouth synonymus words for edge on Norwegian or tipp of a cliff (på randen av stupet/på kanten av stupet = on the edge of the cliff). Two influentual people Rand on US economical philosophy on republican d capitalistic side and Kant, the primal trancendental philosopher. Kants influence is massive, Rands is there but not at that level ( realisticly).
Kant defined the nebula, Rand did not.
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Points: 34076 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2016 at 17:53
http://rebirthofreason.com/Articles/Younkins/Immanuel_Kant_Ayn_Rands_Intellectual_Enemy.shtml

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Points: 65760 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2016 at 18:04
Rand was hardly an actual philosopher and from what I understand internally inconsistent and a horrid writer to boot.
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Points: 34076 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2016 at 18:09
she is labled so but she is one who have attacked Kant and might have made him unpopular in US schools.

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Points: 36840 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2016 at 18:11
Rand if you love Rush, Kant say I do.
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Points: 34076 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2016 at 18:21
i had a precentation on Kants thoughts on categorical imperativ and hypothetic imperative, if wee are hungry we can stil prelonge our wait to get food to fill our hunger, if food is gained by rightfull means, rightfull means is not stealing, if so then if we then made a law that made it leagal for all to take as much food as they could carry, it would cause mayham, and dishonesty, same for all actions thast violates universal moral laws, that cause distrubtion in general fluidity of goodness. Any action witch violates reason is against the categoric imperative cause it violates order.

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Points: 13183 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2016 at 19:57
Kant. Rand was a douche bag.
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Points: 20648 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2016 at 09:35
I think Kant could kick the crap out of Rand.....he was scrappy and tough and had a mean right from what I have heard.
 
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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2016 at 10:23
Google returned 59,700 results containing Immanuel Kant and edgy. Ayn Rand had 101,000 so clearly Ayn Rand.
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Points: 2209 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2016 at 10:36
Kant's categorical imperative - a most insightful theory that attempts to prove the existence of a universal morality.....a priori principles that link mind and matter.....the proof of the existence of God! 
 
Ann Rand's objectivism - a gateway to PC culture.....the idea that everyone's subjective perception provides their own insight into the universal morality......a priori principles cannot exist without mind and body first interpreting "reality"......the proof that all men/women are Gods! 
 
OK, OK, a twisted oversimplification.....I respect Ann Rand, but her ideas have never had the widespread influence that Kant's have had. 
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Points: 34076 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2016 at 04:00
Originally posted by Intruder Intruder wrote:

Kant's categorical imperative - a most insightful theory that attempts to prove the existence of a universal morality.....a priori principles that link mind and matter.....the proof of the existence of God! 
 
Ann Rand's objectivism - a gateway to PC culture.....the idea that everyone's subjective perception provides their own insight into the universal morality......a priori principles cannot exist without mind and body first interpreting "reality"......the proof that all men/women are Gods! 
 
OK, OK, a twisted oversimplification.....I respect Ann Rand, but her ideas have never had the widespread influence that Kant's have had. 
have you read Kants Nebula thesis, that book is magnificant, and it is hes earliest, writing, he started as a philosofical cosmologist Smile
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Points: 34076 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2016 at 04:01
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

I think Kant could kick the crap out of Rand.....he was scrappy and tough and had a mean right from what I have heard.
 
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I believe Kant to be the first telekinetic and telepathic powered being 
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2016 at 10:00
Both were douchebags. Or at least one was a douch bag who inspired douchebags and the other one inspired pretentious douchebags. Anyway, at least Anthem is a good short novel so unpredictably I'll go with Rand. However, I dislike most Randians including Speakers of the House and $$$t 
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Points: 34076 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2016 at 12:27
I wonder if there are prog musician or band who are influenced by Kant and that is heard in the music, either in lyrics or concept.
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Points: 34550 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2016 at 13:07
Only read some Kant and not really sure  I can form an opinion, never really having been into philosophy, but it's hard to find someone worse than Rand. In terms of actual writing, her views then add her inconsistencies, her very obvious gaping logical holes...she's just garbage in all regards 
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Points: 166183 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2016 at 14:25
Easily Kant.
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