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S Lang
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Posted: November 17 2006 at 05:19 |
Tony R wrote:
Philéas wrote:
"I would say"
Well, obviously, he doesn't know what he's talking about. I won't accept that Jimi Hendrix was a big influence on Prog, until I have solid proof that he was. I have never heard enough Hendrix influence in any prog song to justify his inclusion on this site as Proto-Prog, so I'm wondering how this person can say that Hendrix started the Prog movement. I'm also curious how he can consider Hendrix more influential to prog than The Beatles.
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He says that Hendrix played psychedelic music and psychedelic music influenced prog.
He doesnt say that Hendrix started the "Prog movement".
If you are unaware of Hendrix's influence on modern rock music,especially heavy rock,psych and guitar-based Prog,then maybe you need to do some research before making bold statements of disbelief.
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Well said Tony and a big thank you!
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DallasBryan
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Posted: December 23 2006 at 15:54 |
Axis: Bold As Love and Electric Ladyland as whole albums are the definition of Progressive Rock, as much as Zappa's career of avant fusion output. Jimi definitely deserves to be included as Prog-Related or Proto-Prog because without him the whole english scene would not have had a benchmark for what psychedelic(progressive)music should sound like. Today many try to dismiss the fact that progressive rock was born from the psychedelics that people were ingesting during this time period, which I find as an interesting form of denial and applaud the media for there neverending deception.
Interesting how the facts are so removed from the history today. What will intelligent morons do to rearrange the true facts via media hype in years to come?
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I guess eveyone will believe in the future that the US invaded Iraq because Hussein was a bad guy, not that the US was losing control of the oil exports from Iraq. March on soldier for the cause, though you may not be aware of it!
Who has killed more at this point Bush or Hussein?
Edited by DallasBryan - December 23 2006 at 16:12
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progismylife
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Posted: December 23 2006 at 15:57 |
Pink Floyd toured with Jimi Hendrix, I think.
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Siddhartha
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 08:57 |
yes. proto- prog or psykedelic
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Chicapah
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 11:15 |
Yes. Definitely proto-prog in every sense of the word. He influenced every prog guitarist since.
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"Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain
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1800iareyay
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 11:22 |
Proto prog. Influenced every guitar player period, combined blues with psychedelia with some unknown style that is forever his. He could easily fit into proto, related, or psychedelic. He's as important as The Doors to psychedelic rock.
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progismylife
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 11:28 |
Chicapah wrote:
Yes. Definitely proto-prog in every sense of the word. He influenced every prog guitarist since. |
He has influenced every guitarist since. Too much of a wide influence to be specifically prog related or proto-prog.
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 11:56 |
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Philéas
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 12:07 |
progismylife wrote:
He has influenced every guitarist since. Too much of a wide influence to be specifically prog related or proto-prog.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 12:08 |
How could Talk talk, Queen, Led zep be in (without talking about the whole "prog"metal and neo-prog genres) and not Hendrix? Recent Door's inclusion confirms it.
Edited by oliverstoned - January 09 2007 at 12:09
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Witchwoodhermit
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Posted: January 09 2007 at 17:35 |
I vote yes.
Progressive rock was born out of psychedelic music. Psychedelia's vast noodling's and experimentation are the very corner stones of prog. As Jimi was clearly a psyche pioneer, and all pychedelic bands are proto-prog, I guess the choice is clear.
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Here I'm shadowed by a dragon fig tree's fan
ringed by ants and musing over man.
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: January 14 2007 at 12:20 |
I THINK YES!!!
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: January 14 2007 at 12:21 |
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Easy Livin
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Posted: January 14 2007 at 14:27 |
Unfortunately the voting here is meaningless, as the thread allows multiple votes.
I'd suggest a new poll is started with the multiple votes switched off.
I'll close this thread, and start a new one.
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