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    Posted: July 20 2005 at 17:36

In the 80s, before I became aware of hardcore prog like early Genesis and Yes I listened to bands like The Alan Parsons Project, Supertramp, ELO, Queen. I don't consider them to be prog bands, but the progressive elements in their music (especially their early stuff from the 70s) lured me into the real stuff eventually, and I still love them for it.

If Supertramp and TAPP can be on this site as Art Rock bands, why can't ELO be? ELO's early albums are much proggier IMHO than any work by the bands mentioned earlier. On their first record they sound pretty dark and experimental (much like VDGG).

Should ELO be included (or Queen for that matter), or should TAPP and Supertramp be excluded?
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Points: 5964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2005 at 18:47
Not to worry. Just remember - if it seems like an obvious question we've probably discussed it before.
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Points: 571 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2005 at 20:13

 

   elo yes queen no
How wonderful to be so profound
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Originally posted by Losendos Losendos wrote:

 

   elo yes queen no

ELO, YES.......QUEEN, YES...and for the final time YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Points: 203 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2005 at 21:18
FIRE ON HIGH!!

they should be on this web site
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Points: 10 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2005 at 21:40
Oh yeah, I definitely feel that Fire on High is full of prog elements, I'm not real aware of a lot of their other work though so I can't really say if they belong on this site or not, maybe though. Anyone have any ideas?
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Points: 350 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2005 at 22:13
elo is good but  not prog..!! peace.!

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ELO is a mainstream band that plays with Orchestra instruments, maybe their first two albums could be prog, but after the disater of Discovery (Very Disco) and Xanadu with Olivia Newton John I have no doubts that they are not prog'.

Some great albums including A Neew World Record but not prog Either.

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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2005 at 23:15
They have some pretty good catchy songs, but they are not prog IMO
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Points: 19557 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2005 at 23:23

Originally posted by meurglysIII meurglysIII wrote:

They have some pretty good catchy songs, but they are not prog IMO

Well, not to be unfair, I believe they arre more than just catchy, but I agree not mainly progressive.

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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2005 at 23:31
Also, Jeff Lynne was a good arranger and songwriter
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Points: 746 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2005 at 23:49
Of course they deserve to be in the Archive!!!Come on you guys!Just listen to their first four albums,not just their first couple,wich of course were prog.Another one of those bands whose victim of their success.Just because they became famous and had hits does'nt mean they're not prog.ELO,Queen,Supertramp,Deep Purple,Golden Earring ect...ALL PROG!Those should be include with selected discography,pointing to their prog albums,other sites and books do it why not PA?
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Whoa, has anybody ever heard there first two albums (No Answer and ELO II)?!?!  Roy Wood was with them and that stuff was as progressive as Genesis ever was, although never as good.  Listen to "In Old England Town (Boogie #2)," "From the sun to the World," "Kuiama," "10538 Overture,"  Even stuff from the later albums (before Lynne sold out) like "Dreaming of 4000" "Ocean Breakup/King of the Universe" those are very much progressive and great songs.  However ELO will always be remembered for fluff like "Strange Magic" and "Evil Woman."  ELO was originally very very progressive.
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Points: 848 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2005 at 02:35
Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

ELO is a mainstream band that plays with Orchestra instruments, maybe their first two albums could be prog, but after the disater of Discovery (Very Disco) and Xanadu with Olivia Newton John I have no doubts that they are not prog'.


Some great albums including A Neew World Record but not prog Either.


Iván


Maybe for the first time in my belonging to this forum I have to agree with Ivàn
Discovery and Xanadu, despite featuring a bunch of catchy songs, are definitely CHEESY!
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Points: 848 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2005 at 02:37
Originally posted by Rubedo Rubedo wrote:

Even stuff from the later albums (before Lynne
sold out) like "Dreaming of 4000" "Ocean Breakup/King of the Universe"
those are very much progressive and great songs.

LATER albums? The songs you pointed out come from their third release chronologically!
We're talking 1973, friend!
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Points: 20032 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2005 at 07:27
ELO are on "The Best Prog Album In The World Ever..." so they must be prog. Mind you, so are Deep Purple and Roxy Music and I don't consider them prog overall. Queen aren't on it tho'. I guess there are problems with bands like these who have done some prog stuff (e.g. Deep Purple Concerto) but I think you have to take an overall picture.
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Points: 2779 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2005 at 09:11
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
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Points: 5964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2005 at 09:46
Originally posted by sigod sigod wrote:

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!


I feel your pain.
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