new sub genres for prog

I think we already have too many subgenres, and genres for that matter, already.  But as long as people can still easily find what they are looking for, I can live with an expansion.

Eärendil wrote: genres are good but over rated and some bands dont fit into any genres even though most possible music avenues have been explored so no not really

i like genres though because they allow me to categorize things more narrowly and then you can find other bands with a similar sound more easily because they are in a genre together with only 3 other bands i also really like categorizing things because it gives me a sense of peace and control over the world or at least over my music collection or at least the wikipedia page i am browsing however there are already a lot of subgenres you only need to see the wikipedia entries for metal or electronic music to see how narrowly people categorize things already so i dont think its possible to create many more subgenres and still have them be useful terms if the op is asking whether pa should have more subgenres i would say no while you could conceivably narrow things further for example some people have been pushing to split rio from rioavant for a long time now but i think that some of them could actually be narrowed for example i think zeuhl should really just be merged with rioavant its not really a genre it makes casual browsing of the site more difficult which is what the site should aim to be accessible in one thing mike has wanted for a long time is album tagging which i think would provide a compromise because you wouldnt have eight billion metal subgenres for people to click through while still differentiating the slight nuances in sound in a somewhat useful manner that can make people with ocd happy however max is awol and even if he werent adding tagging would be kind of a pain so it will never happen 

so i am ok with the way things are right now

Henry Plainview wrote: i like genres though because they allow me to categorize things more narrowly and then you can find other bands with a similar sound more easily.

I agree with the first part of the sentence, I also do this often.

I think a new genre for 'Glorified Indie Pop' is in order....

madmike wrote: About the only places where I'd like to see an expanded range of subgenres are in the fields of Crossover Prog, Tech/Extreme Prog Metal, and Progressive Metal, as their definitions can be quite broad indeed, and can include bands that sound absolutely nothing like each other.  They aren't necessary, though, just would potentially make explaining a band's style quite a bit easier.

This is a list of many of the electronic subgenres, not even complete. All these describe music that are all fundamentally very similar, more similar to each other than any other type of music. There is no point in thinking up all these subgenres when so many of them are only very nuanced in their differences.

Why must a subgenre only contain carbon copies of the same sound? I suppose that is the question I have. I think that there is no need to eliminate variation in a group. 

Going to ride to the defence of Crossover here: as I understand its definition, Crossover Prog is a place for progressive music which includes influences from more mainstream rock and pop - particularly rock and pop trends which were current at the time of release. So, for instance, Peter Gabriel's solo work in the 1980s had this New Wave influence creeping in.

Henry Plainview wrote: Eärendil wrote: genres are good but over rated and some bands dont fit into any genres even though most possible music avenues have been explored so no not really i like genres though because they allow me to categorize things more narrowly and then you can find other bands with a similar sound more easily because they are in a genre together with only 3 other bands i also really like categorizing things because it gives me a sense of peace and control over the world or at least over my music collection or at least the wikipedia page i am browsing however there are already a lot of subgenres you only need to see the wikipedia entries for metal or electronic music to see how narrowly people categorize things already so i dont think its possible to create many more subgenres and still have them be useful terms if the op is asking whether pa should have more subgenres i would say no while you could conceivably narrow things further for example some people have been pushing to split rio from rioavant for a long time now but i think that some of them could actually be narrowed for example i think zeuhl should really just be merged with rioavant its not really a genre it makes casual browsing of the site more difficult which is what the site should aim to be accessible in one thing mike has wanted for a long time is album tagging which i think would provide a compromise because you wouldnt have eight billion metal subgenres for people to click through while still differentiating the slight nuances in sound in a somewhat useful manner that can make people with ocd happy however max is awol and even if he werent adding tagging would be kind of a pain so it will never happen  so i am ok with the way things are right now

darkshade wrote: I was saying the other day how all the Swedish symphonic/eclectic prog bands should have their own category, just like the Italian bands have theirs (and some of the Italian bands used to be in other sub-genres, and eventually got moved to RPI, so I don't see why it would be a problem)