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Dancing Lemming
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Topic: Zeuhl Posted: August 28 2011 at 12:20 |
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So, I had never heard of this sub-genre until I started looking around on this site, and I would like to know what albums in particular are the best for a quick overview of it, as well as stuff that's similar. I already dove into Magma - K.D.M., Eider Stellaire - I and am really liking them. I also have Magma - Köhntarkösz and Weidorje's s/t.
Also feel free to discuss Zeuhl in general as there doesn't seem to be a topic about it here. |
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ghost_of_morphy
Prog Reviewer Joined: March 08 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2755 |
Posted: August 28 2011 at 13:57 | |
Dun -- Eros is a must have.
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irrelevant
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Posted: August 29 2011 at 01:52 | |
It is. Even if the zeuhl quotient is rather low.
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topographicbroadways
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 20 2010 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 5575 |
Posted: August 29 2011 at 04:33 | |
Magma - K.A, Emehntehtt Re. And any live Magma.
Koenjihyakkei - Angherr Shisspa |
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The Hemulen
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Posted: August 29 2011 at 05:01 | |
Apart from those already mentioned (all great recommendations), Eskaton (particularly 4 Visions), Archaia and Shub-Niggurath all have much to offer for very different reasons.
Someone will probably mention Zao sooner or later, but they've never properly clicked with me. Competent Zeuhl-y jazz fusion but it never reaches the breathtaking heights of Magma or Koenji. |
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dr prog
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 25 2010 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 2471 |
Posted: August 29 2011 at 07:15 | |
Zao
First 3 albums are awesome. Kick ass Eastwood/Bronson gangster prog
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Guldbamsen
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
Posted: August 29 2011 at 07:22 | |
Xing Sa´s Creation de L´Univers is a very good new Zeuhl record, and it certainly rekindled my interest in the genre.
And I second the Eskaton recommendation.
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Saperlipopette!
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Offline Points: 11566 |
Posted: August 29 2011 at 08:43 | |
I love Magma and like most Zeuhl, really. Especially from the "first generation".
Noa (St, 1980)). Incredibly still not in PA!: I think the whole album is on youtube. Rahmann (St, 1980). Middle-eastern Zeuhl: And yes, Eskaton, Dün, Archäïa, Zao, early Shub Niggurath... all awesome Kultivator (BarndomensStigar, 1981) is a little bit of Zeuhl, progfolk, Canterbury and more. Highly reccomended: |
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Padraic
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Posted: August 29 2011 at 09:21 | |
I'll notify the team - certainly sounds like zeuhl to me. As I've commented before, this is from a time where it seems like half of France was making albums like this, so it's not unusual that there will continue to be ones that haven't been incorporated into our database. Your other suggestions were terrific. |
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Mellotron Storm
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 13449 |
Posted: August 30 2011 at 16:17 | |
I agree with Padric those are some killer albums you suggested.
I have NOA and agree with you it should be on here.I have lots though that i think should be on this site but the guys are over worked and under paid so i usually keep my suggestions to myself.
Others would be Utopic Sporadic Orchestra, Strave , Ske , Herd Of Insticnt , Nicklas Barker , Memories Of Machines , Scherzoo and Made In Sweden. Not all for Zeuhl just a bunch of cool proggy bands. |
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: August 30 2011 at 17:39 | |
^To both of you. I know people do all the work for free here. I didn't mean to complain. Like many suggested bands, Noa was suggested and approved years ago, but never actually added. But its a killer album, and a potential Zeuhl-classic worth tracking down.
Glad you liked my suggestions. Edit: Re-released on CD by Soleil Zeuhl just recently. |
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: August 30 2011 at 17:46 | |
I know they´re already featured here at PA under Fusion, but both Syrinx´ albums sound like Zeuhl to me. French band with ties to Nil and Thork, but here the guitars are all acoustic. Laidback jazzy Zeuhl if you will.
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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Padraic
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Posted: August 30 2011 at 17:57 | |
I've alerted the team and the addition should be forthcoming. Your post didn't really complain (I've seen way worse) - on the contrary, thanks for bringing it to our collective attention. re: the re-release, Alain is the man. As is Udi Koomran. Edited by Padraic - August 30 2011 at 18:00 |
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: August 30 2011 at 21:09 | |
Alain and Udi are the unsung heroes for sure Padraic.I have a huge amount of respect for those two.Did you hear about the re-issue of Eider Stellaire's debut.Official announcement is to be on September 8th apparently.I wonder how Alain pulled this one off.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
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Padraic
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Posted: August 30 2011 at 21:26 | |
I had heard rumors of a re-issue, didn't know there was a date. I will definitely be getting it!
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: August 30 2011 at 21:32 | |
Someone leaked it the other day and Alain wasn't to happy about it.It's going to happen though with a bonus track from that period as well. We just don't know much else but all will be revealed on September 8th.I'll post it in the announcements here if someone else doesn't.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
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Tapfret
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Posted: September 01 2011 at 01:01 | |
It's hard to go wrong with Magma. Try Wurdah Itah (labeled as a Christian Vander album). I as also really impressed with their most recent Emehntehtt Re, an old piece that was a live staple in the 70's now redone in the studio. And if you can afford, or somehow get your hands on some of their live stuff, it is well worth it. My favorite is Opera de Reims, which I got super lucky and got MP3 for Amazon at $0.99 per song. So 3 disc set was about $5. That cd runs about $60. If you get nothing else, get the Theusz Hamtaahk DVD.
Outside of Magma, bands that take a similar approach: Eskaton - 4 Visions - Clean sound with female vocals. Universal Totem Orchestra - The Magus - Italian approach to Zeuhl, modern sound but not overly polished, extremely high quality female vox The Japanese Zeuhl scene borders on being its own sub-genre. Most of my favorite Zeuhl, not to mention much of my favorite music regardless of genre is in this sub set. Bondage Fruit - I and II - These are the most Zeuhl-like of their albums, having multiple vocalists which they would drop for their final 4 albums. All of their stuff is stellar, but the first 2 are almost Eastern influenced Zeuhl-punk. Complex and brooding with unique energy. BF II is a top 5 album in my collection. Koenjihyakkei - Viva Koenji (ni) and Angherr Shisspa - Probably the most iconic Japanese Zeuhl. Viva Koenji is very heavy and Angherr Shisspa is very complex. Both have beautiful vocals. Formed by Tatsuya Yoshida of Ruins, a worthy Zeuhl selection in their own right. Happy Family - Tossco - No vocals, but wonderful, wonderful stuff. Often the line between RIO/Avant and Zeuhl is quite blurred. Dun - Eros, as others have mentioned is one that really push the line to RIO. The same can be said for many on the other side. Zeuhl-like RIO/Avant: Guapo - Five Suns - Super heavy on the mellotron and marching beats. Nebelnest - Nova Express - Huge mellotron and tasty Rhodes, spacy themes. Pochakaite Malko - My new favorite, so Zeuhl-like are they that they originally went by the name "Magma Copy Band". Outstanding stuff. Edited by Tapfret - September 01 2011 at 01:51 |
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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 01 2011 at 06:00 | |
That was awesome. I'll definitely have to pick up the reissue when I can afford to... |
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Guldbamsen
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23104 |
Posted: September 01 2011 at 06:09 | |
I second that notion. That Noa track was awesome - Thanks Mr. Saperlipopette!
You wouldn´t be French by any chance?
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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toroddfuglesteg
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Posted: September 01 2011 at 06:37 | |
In my honest opinion, the most progressive genre in ProgArchives is Zeuhl. I am getting more and more into it. That Shub Niggurath album Les Morts Vont Vite is one of the best albums in ProgArchives and a classic, best enjoyed while hiding behind a sofa. It is scary, scary music.
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