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    Posted: June 23 2011 at 15:20
Personally, I love ELP, but they seem to get a really bad rep. Why is this? I know they were inconsistent, but when they shone, the really shone. They were one of the top bands in the world, nearly tied with Zeppelin at the end of 1974. But why does everyone give them a bad rep? 
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Points: 901 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 15:24
It's because they were overtly pretentious and excessive, even more so than the other big prog acts. I think they're awesome though. Tarkus (song) is a masterpiece. So is The Endless Enigma+Fugue
I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't
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Points: 5575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 15:32
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Points: 29438 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 15:32
Lovely to see the revival of a classic thread that comes about every so often. I started my own version 'Why does everyone hate ELP?' about 6 years ago.
 
ELP were bombastic and at times came across as arrogant. They also dared to enjoy themselves which may actually be a crime.Lyrically they were a long way behind the likes of Floyd and Genesis as well as several others and musically not as strong perhaps as Gentle Giant or Yes. To many they served a purpose by helping to raise the profile of prog and should have got out when the going was good (about 1974) and left it to those who were better at it.
 
To be fair though there have been quite a lot of positive comments about their High Voltage performance from people who don't especially like them. I suspect there has been some softening of attitiude towards them over time. Or perhaps thats because they are now more or less finished?!
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Points: 7971 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 15:37
Not actually, the most hated band is Torman Maxt.
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Points: 13298 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 15:44
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Not actually, the most hated band is Torman Maxt.

they're so hated, I've never even heard of them! Tongue
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Points: 5575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 15:47
Actually by PA standards the most hated 'Prog' band is METALLICA!!! Tongue
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Points: 13298 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 15:50
Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:

Nope
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Points: 13298 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 15:51
Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:

Actually by PA standards the most hated 'Prog' band is METALLICA!!! Tongue

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I'd say Dream Theater probably stir up more polarised opinion than ELP
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Points: 901 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 16:03
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

I'd say Dream Theater probably stir up more polarised opinion than ELP
Dream theater's fan base are an army or raging fanboys who think that they can do no wrong, and make up for any hate they get
I'm so mad that you enjoy a certain combination of noises that I don't
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Points: 17966 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 16:13
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Not actually, the most hated band is Torman Maxt.
 
Boy I remember that thread......wow! The Hate Runneth'over...
 
And on topic about ELP..... Seems like everyone feels it is due to their bombastic approach to music. I do agree lyrically they were lacking substance...but on the flipside they seemed to be having a lot of fun. I am neutral with ELP, I don't listen to them much.


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Points: 339 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 18:07
Yea, but people appreciate Dream Theater's masterpieces, while ELP's masterpiece, Brain Salad Surgery, isn't even on the top 100 Prog albums list!
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Points: 34083 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 18:14
of the "classic "  prog bands ELP and Renaissance seem like the two least popular among the 8 or 9 most famous prog groups of the so called classic groups)
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Points: 50 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 18:23
I don't know, they are pretty average with moments of PURE GENIOUS - Tarkus is one of my favourite songs and I also love Karn Evil 9, Trilogy, Hoedown, and a couple of others ^_^
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Points: 8718 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 19:27
Yes,i know that some enjoy disliking them, but that happens with any band.
          In general, they were a success story, a progressive rock guiding light, and i am sure that there are more people that like them than do not.
              On the one hand, a "people's band" whose fans are loyal and a group  whose music really resonates with their fans , and also an inspiration to other progressive rock musicians and resultant groups
             Looking at everything, when i think of ELP and what they have achieved, i think of the switch being "On", not "Off"
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Points: 98 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 20:29
Porcupine Tree used to get lots of love, but they get lots of hate now to go with it. Opeth also get equal amounts of love and hate. Most prog snobs look down on you if you like Spock's Beard or Flower Kings.
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Points: 13298 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 20:35
Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

I'd say Dream Theater probably stir up more polarised opinion than ELP
Dream theater's fan base are an army or raging fanboys who think that they can do no wrong, and make up for any hate they get

im sorry you have such a one sided opinion 
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Points: 1584 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 21:04
I'm pretty neutral toward them, but their first four albums all have 4Star or above.  It's easy to see though how their later stuff brings outrage from prog-heads:







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Points: 8718 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2011 at 21:52
Originally posted by Eärendil Eärendil wrote:

I'm pretty neutral toward them, but their first four albums all have 4Star or above.  It's easy to see though how their later stuff brings outrage from prog-heads:





Yeah, i can see what you are getting at regarding their later material, but for me, i can forgive them because of the brilliant earlier music
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