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Earendil
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 17 2008 Location: Indiana, USA Status: Offline Points: 1584 |
Topic: Rating Scale Posted: June 12 2011 at 19:23 |
Not to start a rebellion, but I generally prefer rating things on a 1-10 scale. Just curious to see what other people like most.
Edited by Eärendil - June 12 2011 at 19:26 |
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catfood03
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 24 2009 Status: Offline Points: 785 |
Posted: June 12 2011 at 20:55 |
My least fave would be the "school grade" method of A+, A, A-, B+... etc. I think Entertainment Weekly magazine uses that.
I like a 1 to 10 scale, but a site like Pitchfork gets too anal about it. I mean exactly what distinguishes an 8.3 rating from an 8.4??? Edited by catfood03 - June 12 2011 at 21:18 |
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The Dark Elf
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13065 |
Posted: June 12 2011 at 21:10 |
I usually prefer a 1 to 5 scale with .5 increments, a "5" being an essential album. A scale of ten requires too much thinking on my part.
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Alitare
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 08 2008 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 3595 |
Posted: June 12 2011 at 22:33 |
I prefer a rating of 1-15.
13-15 are different levels of masterpieces, 5 star wonders. 12's are simply your average excellent works. 10's and 11's are competent and 'decent'. 9's 8's and 7's are all mediocre and predictable and generic, but not dreadfully offensive - usually just boring. 6's 5's and 4's are all differing levels of plain awful. Anything lower than a 4 is an atrocious abomination and an effrontery to the Lord of aural elation. (as a note, I've reviewed 1,000+ albums, and only one has gotten a 15, while NONE have gotten lower than a 4 (two 4's so far) It's all just different slices of the same pie, though. Old grade school ratings are the same as 1-15. A+ to A- is 15 to 13, B+ t B- is 12 to 10, C+ to C- is 9 to 7, D+ to D- is 6 to 4, and F+ to F- is 3 to 1. That's unless you don't use +/- on F, then it's 1-13. If you add .5 increments to 1-5, it's basically a 1-9, unless you consider the possibility of 0.5 or 0, then it's 1-11, but most only do 1-5. It also depends on the weight you place to which numbers. One man's 13/15 may be another man's 4/5, which may be another man's A- which may be another man's 4.5/5 which may be another man's sperm count (in millions). |
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Alitare
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 08 2008 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 3595 |
Posted: June 12 2011 at 22:34 |
The pitchfork scale is basically a percentage scale, which is definitely too much for me. It's not because I can't tell the difference between an 8.3 and an 8.4, it's because I'd rather yank my own teeth out than EXPLAIN the difference between an 8.3 and an 8.4 to someone else.
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Man With Hat
Collaborator Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166178 |
Posted: June 12 2011 at 22:47 |
Ditto.
5 feels natural, 10 feels awkward.
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dreadpirateroberts
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Posted: June 12 2011 at 22:49 |
I like the idea of 1, 1.5 - 4.5, 5 and so on. Though we already do it in many of our reviews informally, it might be nice for the stars to be able to reflect that in the graphical too.
Of course, 1-5 works great too. |
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irrelevant
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 01:04 |
Second option.
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Queen By-Tor
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 13 2006 Location: Xanadu Status: Offline Points: 16111 |
Posted: June 13 2011 at 01:29 |
go for, "who gives a f**k"
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: June 13 2011 at 02:55 |
I prefer the 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5 etc scale
Still got the simple 1-5 scale but allows a little more choice, no needing to toil between a 3 or 4! Yeah anything using tenths is crazy. Debates are wild enough, imagine trying to decide if an album is 8.5 or 8.6 OH! Also hate to be that guy, this probably should be moved since its not really about music. Edited by JJLehto - June 13 2011 at 02:56 |
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Drew
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 20 2005 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 12600 |
Posted: June 13 2011 at 03:00 |
1, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5
The current system has too many gaps |
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Alitare
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 08 2008 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 3595 |
Posted: June 13 2011 at 07:22 |
I see the way progarchives works. To me, it seems that our reviews separately don't matter to anyone on the outside, that what we've reviewed together works like a hive mind. If Close to the Edge has 4.64, it has that from us as a total being, it's only when sinking in and discerning the different reviews that you get to see each ant's antennae. Thus I can understand why we have a more trivialized and restricted approach to separate reviewing.
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Bonnek
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Posted: June 13 2011 at 07:41 |
The current 1-5 works fine for me. Would be nice to have a special 6 star rate that you can apply to 1 album out of 100 |
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CPicard
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
Posted: June 13 2011 at 07:55 |
I suggest the scale 1-11
Why 11? Because I like to go one step beyond. |
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M@X
Forum & Site Admin Group Co-founder, Admin & Webmaster Joined: January 29 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4028 |
Posted: June 13 2011 at 07:58 |
How do we handle previous ratings , we invite them to adjust ? and to maybe adjust their review because some reviewer include their ratings in the text.
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Earendil
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 17 2008 Location: Indiana, USA Status: Offline Points: 1584 |
Posted: June 13 2011 at 08:20 |
That's funny because I'd say the exact opposite. It it's that scale, I rate it 1-10 then convert it. |
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Warthur
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 06 2008 Location: London, UK Status: Offline Points: 617 |
Posted: June 13 2011 at 09:54 |
Honestly, I think the current system is fine. Yes, the categories are quite broad, but as has been pointed out it's the way the scores are averaged out over the community which is the most interesting part when it comes to scoring.
In general I think the actual rating you give doesn't matter so much when it comes to your review although it is important when it comes to calculating the average rating as obtained by the community as has been pointed out - which I think is what is the really interesting aspect of the scoring system. I don't personally care much whether a particular reviewer gives an album four stars or five - what they actually write about the album tells me far more about the album and their reaction to it than the rating they give. I *do* care if the album, say, has a lot of 5-star reviews and a lot of 1-star reviews but not many 3-stars (which implies an incredibly divisive disc); in general I think the shape of the bar chart of review ratings is even more informative than the averaged score. Bottom line: I think the rating system is fine as it is; the only problem with it is that people get too hung up on it, fussing over whether a particular album should have four stars or five. And really, that's not so much a problem with the system so much as a problem with people's attitudes to it: when we review we should be reviewing with an eye to conveying what we think about an album, not reviewing with an eye to fitting our thoughts into the scoring system.
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: June 13 2011 at 10:08 |
I have no idea why this poll says I've already voted. I haven't.
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TheGazzardian
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 11 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 8703 |
Posted: June 13 2011 at 10:17 |
I'm having a similar problem Alex, it says "You cannot vote in this poll" (with no reason given).
Personally I'm a fan of the 1-5 star system, it's simple and each rating has a clear meaning so I never have doubts about where to put an album. If there were half stars, I would probably try to avoid using them.
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: June 13 2011 at 10:30 |
Oh, if it's a general problem it means the poll was created somewhere else, then moved in this section which probably does not allow polls.
The second and third options are mathematically the same, but I'd vote for the second instead of the third because it would temper the a****les who would feel the need to ask for subdivisions. |
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