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    Posted: June 01 2011 at 09:18
Normally it's my stock and trade to ignore both live albums unless you're Deep Purple (thus the primary reason for existing) or greatest hits packages unless you're Tom Petty (because who needs all 'em damn Petty deep cuts?) 

But lately I listened to Queensryche's Operation: Livecrime, which I thought was entertaining as hell, and Pain of Salvation's 12:5, which may have just become my personal favorite live album, ever. I like the idea of former - taking a well known piece/plot and giving it a more raw, visceral edge without going into obnoxious 20 minute jam sessions where each band member solos forever and there are even drum solos. However, I LOVED the idea behind 12:5. Not only does the band refuse to do what I hate (having terribly long songs only drawn out for the sake of a few "crowd-pleasers"), but they radically alter and re-arrange their material in an acoustic environment without the impetus from MTV. What can I say? Their uplifting rendition of 'Ashes' blew me away.

So now I'm actually on the hunt for these types of live albums. Naw, I can't stand Live at Leeds or Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out. I've grown terribly tired of Dream Theater, and plain just don't care about most heavy prog. I suppose what Arjen Lucassen did with his reissue of The Final Experiment is in line with this as well (releasing a completely re-structured and re-arranged version of the album in a more concise and palatable form).

Can ya help me find albums in a similar vein?
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Points: 22989 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2011 at 09:22
It's not really transparent what "vein" exactly are you describing. After the first two paragraphs I was getting ready to suggest you Live at Leeds, which apparently wasn't what you had in mind. 
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Does it matter? You're just going to steal them anyway.
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Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Does it matter? You're just going to steal them anyway.

So, so......... Withdraw your claws on your way to the vet and the operating table. 

Here is what awaits you: 
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Alitare: Try the Emerson, Lake & Palmer live album Welcome Back My Friends To The Show That Never Ends.  A true classic. The same goes for Deep Purple's Made In Japan and the expanded version Live In Japan. Scandinavian Nights is also great.  Led Zeppelin has this ........West live album which is worthy a purchase. 

That is a good start. 
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

It's not really transparent what "vein" exactly are you describing. After the first two paragraphs I was getting ready to suggest you Live at Leeds, which apparently wasn't what you had in mind. 

I'm sorry. Damn, I try hard not to sound like a dickhead but I'm not good at it. I like Live at Leeds, it just doesn't hit me like it seems to hit most other folks. I suppose I'm infatuated with the idea of 'intimate band reinterpretation'. That's real vague. I don't know what I'm looking for.
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I'll think more then.

But as you can see you also puzzled Torodd, who suggested you the (awesome) Zeppelin live album that you would probably not like because it has those "obnoxious 20 minute jam sessions where each band member solos forever and there are even drum solos", or ELP which you absolutely hate if I'm not wrong.

Well at least the Zeppelin album is great on the "a more raw, visceral edge" side, so maybe you should try it nevertheless. It's called "How The West Was Won".
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

I'll think more then.

But as you can see you also puzzled Torodd, who suggested you the (awesome) Zeppelin live album that you would probably not like because it has those "obnoxious 20 minute jam sessions where each band member solos forever and there are even drum solos", or ELP which you absolutely hate if I'm not wrong.

Well at least the Zeppelin album is great on the "a more raw, visceral edge" side, so maybe you should try it nevertheless. It's called "How The West Was Won".

I don't absolutely hate ELP, they just don't hit me like they do a lot of others. I joke about certain things and I know it makes me look like an unenlightened jackass, but I'm not like that in person - or maybe I am. 
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Originally posted by Alitare Alitare wrote:

   

I don't absolutely hate ELP, they just don't hit me like they do a lot of others. I joke about certain things and I know it makes me look like an unenlightened jackass, but I'm not like that in person - or maybe I am. 

Do not worry. Everyone have different tastes. We are individuals and that is in my view the essence of prog rock. 

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The band byron did an unplugged DVD in which they played rearranged versions of their pieces. Here's an example:





Let me know if you're interested in more. Most of their material is free.
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IQ - Forever Live
 
Depends whether you care for 'neo prog' but this is a very tight concise live album with no 'showing off'. They even break down the 20 minute The Last Human Gateway from their debut album into 'middle section' and 'end section'.Covers all the best IQ material from Tales From The Lush Attic up to Ever.
 
 
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This is my favorite live performance of all time.

One half acoustic, the other live. Such energy in both halves... It's just live music at it's epitome.
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The Moody Blues Live At Red Rock with the Colorado Symphony Orchestra is one of my favorite live albums.  I have no idea if it would appeal to you or not.  I also enjoy Yes' Symphonic Live which is performed with a symphony orchestra.  I have no idea if either would appeal to you, but they are two live albums that I really enjoy.
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Points: 8138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2011 at 16:48
 
 
 
 
 
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

The Moody Blues Live At Red Rock with the Colorado Symphony Orchestra is one of my favorite live albums.  I have no idea if it would appeal to you or not.  I also enjoy Yes' Symphonic Live which is performed with a symphony orchestra.  I have no idea if either would appeal to you, but they are two live albums that I really enjoy.
 
I would also like to add one of favourites Procal Harum 'In Concert with the Edmonton Symhony Orchestra'.
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I know you like Sigur Ros, so do you have Heima? This just struck me. 
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

The Moody Blues Live At Red Rock with the Colorado Symphony Orchestra is one of my favorite live albums.  I have no idea if it would appeal to you or not. 
I would like it more but for two things:
1. Hayward and especially Lodge sound like they're coming down with something.
2. The playing of the orchestra doesn't sound that great all the time.  There are some goofy things going on with the mix in spots, and there are a lot of moments where parts of the brass section sound lost.
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Points: 3595 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2011 at 15:11
I suppose mainly I'm looking for radical interpretations. As of now, my three favorite live albums are Black Sabbath's Live Evil, Queensryche's Operation: LIVEcrime (don't put much stock in this one, I only like it because of my  love of the original) and Pain of Salvation's 12:5. 

I really liked Deep Purple's Made in Japan, but it isn't what I'm looking for.  If you wanna know exactly what I'm looking for, listen to Pain of Salvation's 'Ashes' from Perfect Element, then listen to 'Ashes' from 12:5.
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Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

 
 
 
 
 

I forgot entirely about Unleashed in the East, which was fantastical. Also nearly forgot about Live Evil, which is not only my favorite live album from Black Sabbath, it's my favorite Black Sabbath album in general.
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