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    Posted: March 17 2011 at 18:18
I was browsing the Parallel Universe section of MSN and ran into this story.I was surprised to even see prog mentioned and I thought it was interesting to see what they considered prog in the 21st century.
 


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I feel like people will throw prog at any music with a less than generic approach or slightly spacey sound....
Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance.
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Points: 4373 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2011 at 21:02
A bunch of whiny bands that have zero connection to progress, plus some bands that have been releasing albums since the 80s. Pretty uninformative, all things considered.
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2011 at 21:51
I agree Walter.I just thought it was interesting to see what the mainstream consider "prog".


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Points: 12294 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2011 at 22:54
Pelican = "terrifying"
 
+ all the so-called 'prog'
 
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No sense make.
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[talking about Sigur Rós] "The key to this startling neo-prog originality..." I just a little inside. 
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Coheed and Cambria are considered the pinnacle of mathy riffing experimentation?

Not even the slightest hint of a mention of Meshuggah?

I AM FILLED WITH RAGE.
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Coheed >>>>>>>>> Meshuggah
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Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Coheed >>>>>>>>> Meshuggah

MORE RAGE.
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Originally posted by NecronCommander NecronCommander wrote:

Coheed and Cambria are considered the pinnacle of mathy riffing experimentation?

Not even the slightest hint of a mention of Meshuggah?

I AM FILLED WITH RAGE.


Protip: noobs are gonna noob.

I may not like the most experimental metal in the world, but f**k, c&c sucks pretty hard. Even LaBrie with his vocal cords torn sings better than this guy. Though I fear bad singers are a problem among hipster prog (c&c, TMV, etc).
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Points: 8815 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2011 at 23:20
When I opened that link, there was text that said "Read On..." that, when I clicked on it, didn't let me read on.
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Yeah Stephen, what I did was I typed the page number in manually in the address bar, otherwise it wouldn't let me advance either.
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Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by NecronCommander NecronCommander wrote:

Coheed and Cambria are considered the pinnacle of mathy riffing experimentation?

Not even the slightest hint of a mention of Meshuggah?

I AM FILLED WITH RAGE.


Protip: noobs are gonna noob.

I may not like the most experimental metal in the world, but f**k, c&c sucks pretty hard. Even LaBrie with his vocal cords torn sings better than this guy. Though I fear bad singers are a problem among hipster prog (c&c, TMV, etc).


Claudio and Cedric aren't bad singers. Their style just doesn't appeal to everyone.

Also, how are bands like C&C and TMV "hipster prog"?


Edited by Anthony H. - March 17 2011 at 23:23
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Points: 16122 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2011 at 23:29
Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by NecronCommander NecronCommander wrote:

Coheed and Cambria are considered the pinnacle of mathy riffing experimentation?

Not even the slightest hint of a mention of Meshuggah?

I AM FILLED WITH RAGE.


Protip: noobs are gonna noob.

I may not like the most experimental metal in the world, but f**k, c&c sucks pretty hard. Even LaBrie with his vocal cords torn sings better than this guy. Though I fear bad singers are a problem among hipster prog (c&c, TMV, etc).


Claudio and Cedric aren't bad singers. Their style just doesn't appeal to everyone.

Also, how are bands like C&C and TMV "hipster prog"?

Quoted for truth.

I think they're "hipster prog" because they are (generally) somewhat accessible and have a lot of indie tendencies that appeal more to the crossover crowd (the people that appreciate music that deviates from the norm or the mainstream, usually hipsters who aren't full-on prog fans themselves.)
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Points: 7971 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2011 at 23:30
Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by NecronCommander NecronCommander wrote:

Coheed and Cambria are considered the pinnacle of mathy riffing experimentation?

Not even the slightest hint of a mention of Meshuggah?

I AM FILLED WITH RAGE.


Protip: noobs are gonna noob.

I may not like the most experimental metal in the world, but f**k, c&c sucks pretty hard. Even LaBrie with his vocal cords torn sings better than this guy. Though I fear bad singers are a problem among hipster prog (c&c, TMV, etc).


Claudio and Cedric aren't bad singers. Their style just doesn't appeal to everyone.

Also, how are bands like C&C and TMV "hipster prog"?


LOLwhat? They cannot sing in tune or steadily without the usage of tuning and stabilizing programs. Not being able to sing in tune or sustaining a note is pretty much all I need to say that one cannot sing.

Just compare them with Geddy Lee. All three have somewhat similar styles of singing, yet Lee does not need retouching in his vocals. Wink

And if you don't know what's hipster prog, that's because you are a hipster yourself. LOL
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Points: 6088 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2011 at 23:32
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by Anthony H. Anthony H. wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by NecronCommander NecronCommander wrote:

Coheed and Cambria are considered the pinnacle of mathy riffing experimentation?

Not even the slightest hint of a mention of Meshuggah?

I AM FILLED WITH RAGE.


Protip: noobs are gonna noob.

I may not like the most experimental metal in the world, but f**k, c&c sucks pretty hard. Even LaBrie with his vocal cords torn sings better than this guy. Though I fear bad singers are a problem among hipster prog (c&c, TMV, etc).


Claudio and Cedric aren't bad singers. Their style just doesn't appeal to everyone.

Also, how are bands like C&C and TMV "hipster prog"?


LOLwhat? They cannot sing in tune or steadily without the usage of tuning and stabilizing programs. Not being able to sing in tune or sustaining a note is pretty much all I need to say that one cannot sing.

Just compare them with Geddy Lee. All three have somewhat similar styles of singing, yet Lee does not need retouching in his vocals. Wink

And if you don't know what's hipster prog, that's because you are a hipster yourself. LOL


Dude, none of that is true.
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Points: 7971 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2011 at 23:35


Will you look me straight in the face and tell me that this is in tune?
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Points: 16122 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2011 at 23:36
Also, atonality is something that TMV experiment with on occasion, it's something they build into their music.  And it works.
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Points: 7971 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2011 at 23:38
Originally posted by NecronCommander NecronCommander wrote:

Also, atonality is something that TMV experiment with on occasion, it's something they build into their music.  And it works.


Being atonal is one thing, being out of tune is another. Atonal scales follow a logic and rules that have their own tuning. Hiding flaws behind that excuse "oh, that was atonal", "oh, that was dissonant", further proves my point.
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Points: 16122 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2011 at 23:40
Also I didn't find anything wrong with his singing in that video, I actually thought it was a lot more spot-on than I've seen with some of their performances.  It sounded perfectly harmonic to my ears.

Edited by NecronCommander - March 17 2011 at 23:40
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