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Mushroom Sword
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Topic: Why is it called progressive rock? Posted: October 01 2010 at 20:44 |
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Is there a reason for it? I've always loved prog. But I've never known why it's called "progressive". Unless you're talking about most of the guitar riffs from Rush there isn't anything that progresses. In fact, it's probably the opposite. Maybe I'm just thinking way too much into it. But I've looked it up, haven't found anything. Anyone know why it's "progressive" rock?
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Any Colour You Like
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 15 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12294 |
Posted: October 01 2010 at 20:52 | |
lol, no. |
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: October 01 2010 at 20:55 | |
Yeah, you're looking to much into it.
Edited by JJLehto - October 01 2010 at 20:57 |
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horsewithteeth11
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Kentucky Status: Offline Points: 24598 |
Posted: October 01 2010 at 20:58 | |
00s prog =/= 70s prog
And that's probably because music has....well, progressed. While some of us don't think it's necessarily a good thing (here's looking at you Walter, ol' buddy ). Seriously though, since you said "progressive rock", I'm going to assume you mean artists that have progressed music in some way. Was that a cliche enough answer? Edited by horsewithteeth11 - October 01 2010 at 20:59 |
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Mushroom Sword
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Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:00 | |
No, I mean classic prog. I mean, I've read the backs Yes albums wherecall themselves Prog! (90125 for example) |
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NecronCommander
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Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:04 | |
90125 was a pop rock album.
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Catcher10
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Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:04 | |
Its called Progressive Rock cause the songs get progressively longer and cause this website says so...
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:07 | |
Well, that was a pop album, but they were one of the dominant prog bands of the 70s so I guess they were still running with that tag to sell more albums? I don't know. Plus, the majority of bands that try to directly copy 70s prog tend to be retro bands anyway. Prog still exists, it just sounds nothing like 70s prog. |
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:20 | |
I used to agree that it had to "progress" but as you alluded to....that turned out to be quite narrow.
I see "progressive" music as anything that's different, challenging, out of the norm for its style etc |
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Manuel
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Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:21 | |
As far as I remember, when rock music started incorporating influences from other genres, like folk, jazz, classical, etc, people started saying that rock had "Progressed" beyond its boundaries, and the term progressive was used to define this music. It had nothing to do with the music progressing within itself, just stated the fact that it went beyond its limits.
It's also important to remember that most all genres of music eventually do this, and we have progressive jazz, metal, rock, etc, so its more a tendency that happens when the artists get creative and want to push the limits a little (or a lot) further.
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JJLehto
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Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:27 | |
Exactly! Yes. That was a much better way of saying what I tried to Edited by JJLehto - October 01 2010 at 21:27 |
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:31 | |
Yeah, that was what I meant to say, except about 9001 times better. |
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thellama73
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Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:32 | |
It's called progressive rock because all the people who listen to it (like JJ up there^) are progressive, liberal hippies. (God I hate them.)
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:35 | |
Its true llama.
We all know that all prog fans are old guys stuck in the 70's or young kids on drugs. I love prog but haaaaate hippies |
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Mushroom Sword
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Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:41 | |
Ok thank you for explaining it. I can die now. Oh wait... got tickets for the Roger Waters Concert... I can die after that. Also I love prog and love hippies. But am not a hippy. But would not mind being one. |
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thellama73
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Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:46 | |
Your avatar is a unicorn. I'm pretty sure you're a hippy. |
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Lozlan
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Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:53 | |
The whole idea behind progressive rock was to elevate rock music (aka 'popular' music) to a level of sophistication that could rival classical composition (as well as, in some circles, the Romanticist/Victorian literary canon). The word 'progressive' was meant to posit that rock was 'progressing' into a valid form of timeless artistic expression.
And proggies wonder why we're occasionally branded as pretentious? |
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JJLehto
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Posted: October 01 2010 at 21:57 | |
...artists that go out of their way to mock pretentiousness, are they even MORE pretentious?
Face it, us proggers love that word! Deep down we love (or hate to love) the pretentiousness! Edited by JJLehto - October 01 2010 at 21:57 |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 01 2010 at 22:06 | |
It goes beyond music that "progresses" but about music that progresses beyond many of the stagnant musical forms. That is progress, from which the term progressive came from. If you only think the Rush guitar riffs are progressive, you may need to explore more.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Mushroom Sword
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Posted: October 01 2010 at 22:08 | |
Also, are all of you guys... do you have proof, or memories of it being called progressive rock for these reasons? Or are you just guessing, cause that's that's what it's called.
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