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altaeria
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Topic: Now I know who NOT to listen to. Posted: May 25 2010 at 09:24 |
Have you ever had one of those days
where you casually browse through the recent reviews and
stumble upon some reviewer whose opinion appears to be the
EXACT OPPOSITE of yours on almost every album reviewed ?
That's when you simply have to shrug it off and say to yourself,
"Now I know exactly who NOT to listen to."
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tuxon
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 10:14 |
In cases like this you have nothing to go at, could be you like some same albums (possibly for different reasons). so you can't make a good judgement on how to translate it's rating into what it would mean for you.
personally I prefer opposed oppinions above kindred spirits for it displays another angle from which to listen to what's good and bad about music. That's what's good about reviews, even an opposite view is meaningfull information.
anyway. there's lots of people who I totally disagree with, but still I will allow their possitive recomendations for maybe in that case our opinions suddenly match. etc.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 12:41 |
A good review should allow the reader to make their own mind up. The reviewer may recommend an album, but the supporting text should give the reader a good indication of whether or not they might like it.
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lazland
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 13:26 |
Easy Livin wrote:
A good review should allow the reader to make their own mind up. The reviewer may recommend an album, but the supporting text should give the reader a good indication of whether or not they might like it. |
Absolutely. I always look at all of the reviews before making my mind up as well, so I get a good cross section of opinion. If it's any help, I haven't been let down once.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 13:54 |
Easy Livin wrote:
A good review should allow the reader to make their
own mind up. The reviewer may recommend an album, but the supporting
text should give the reader a good indication of whether or not they might
like it. |
Well put.  There's such a wide variety of music on this site that there really isn't anything universally appealing to everyone. It seems some times people slam something just because they think they are being clever. If there's something new out I am interested in, I will let a few more reviews come in before I will decide whether or not to order it. I must say I have never yet been disappointed by anything a fellow PA member has personally recommended.
Edited by Slartibartfast - May 25 2010 at 13:56
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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lucas
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 15:48 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
I must say I have never yet been disappointed by anything a fellow PA member has personally recommended. |
 Just saw you enjoy the Prince's 'children of the rainbow' album. I am glad you like it, that's a fantastic album.
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lucas
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 15:50 |
Well, I think I'm in the minority disliking Opeth and Gentle Giant (bands which albums are usually highly rated in PA).
Edited by lucas - May 25 2010 at 15:51
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 20:10 |
lucas wrote:
Well, I think I'm in the minority disliking Opeth and Gentle Giant (bands which albums are usually highly rated in PA).
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Gentle Giant are an acquired taste... have you acquired it yet?  =F=
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rod65
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 20:13 |
I find that reviewers with whom I strongly disagree have often heard something that I have missed, and more than once have listened to the album so reviewed again with different and more sensitive ears. As an ideal--one that I try to follow, but not always successfully--I at least entertain the possibility that, where someone else sees beauty or quality that I myself have missed, the deficiency is not in the music (or other art) in question, but rather in me. It is sometimes hard to be true to that ideal, especially on matters in which I've got a lot of myself invested, but when I have been successful, I have always been glad of the mental effort involved.
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The Monodrone
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 20:19 |
I don't really enjoy ELP at all. A local radio show near my town once played all of Tarkus and I was very put off by that album... I've heard some of their other songs, and I just can't seem to get into them at all despite their great album reviews on PA.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 22:25 |
I don't know of anybody who has my exact opposite taste, partly because I don't spend much time reading random reviews on the front page, but there are certain positive adjectives that people often use that tell me I'm probably not going to like it; such as, melodic, accessible, straightforward/straight-ahead, direct, minimal, hypnotizing, charming, muscular, atmospheric, and ambient. I particularly hate charming: I'm not even sure what it means in a musical context, but I've never liked an album that somebody else called charming. Although it's not used all that often, so maybe I'm not being fair.
Edited by Henry Plainview - May 25 2010 at 22:32
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Falx
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 22:30 |
I think "charming" is just a euphemism for "quaint". Genesis's debut album is "charming"...
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 22:31 |
And of course, Zorn is most definitely not charming.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 22:37 |
Falx wrote:
I think "charming" is just a euphemism for "quaint". Genesis's debut album is "charming"...
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That sounds about right. I don't like that quant, precious tweeness of a lot of indie (or, in the prog realm, Gentle Giant), it's just infuriating.
Scott, you might be surprised, Zorn has written quite a bit of pop music over the years.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: May 25 2010 at 22:37 |
rushfan4 wrote:
And of course, Zorn is most definitely not charming. |
What about O'o? Buncha songs about lil' birdies
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: May 26 2010 at 10:14 |
Great thread!
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The Truth
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Posted: May 26 2010 at 12:10 |
It is a good idea for a thread  I'll check back later
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Repner
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Posted: May 26 2010 at 13:22 |
Depends on the type of person that reviews it.
Like say there is a death metal album that is generally very well liked for example. Then someone who hates death metal comes along and gives it a negative review, purely for the reason that it's death metal. That's the sort of thing I would ignore, if theres a review by someone who hates the genre even though a fan of that style might consider it a great addition to the category
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Nightshine
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Posted: May 26 2010 at 13:39 |
Critics are to do the following:
1. Praise musicians who make good music
2. Metaphorically spit on musicians who make bad music.
3. NEVER, EVER regard the FCC or any such organization as an authoritative force with power.
4. Exercise their freedom of speech like no other has ever done before.
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boo boo
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Posted: May 26 2010 at 14:23 |
Whenever someone uses "charming" they use it in a condescending manner. But most reviews I read anywhere have a condescending tone.
And of course every website has a few people whose tastes are the exact opposite of mine, this one is no exception.
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